Right, I was reading about them a few months back. I was really excited there for a second.. 'WOW! three provinces away, ..I'm famous!
So, how are you finding Asterisk? I may be building a toll bypass circuit with it in a few weeks. While I'm talking about it, is there a gui with asterisk? _____________________________ Kris Cote Director of Internet Engineering StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > Perhaps I am associating you with the wrong company ... there is a Storm > Communication in the Ottawa area that is an ISP > > It was recommended by users on a LUG mailing list I subscribe to but if I remember > correctly, they didn't provide service in my area > > > > Storm3 Communications ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM > >Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > > > > >> I'm right here ... where are you? > > > >Right about here.. > >> > >> Just kidding, I'm in Stratford, Ontario, Canada > > > >I'm in Lethbridge Alberta. > >> > >> As an aside, I looked at switching to your company for internet access > >from > >> Bell HSE but switched to istop.com instead. > > > >My company? What made you choose istop.com? > > > >> > >> We have a branch office in Kemptville (currently using Bell HSE - but only > >> until I get time to get them switched to something else) that I'd like to > >> connect to here via VoIP > > > > > >> > >> I have ordered two digium dev lite kits to try to connect the two (with > >> asterisk) > > > >I'm looking at doing something similar, but I can't my asterisk box to work > >right. > >> > >> For two small offices, it's questionable whether it's worth the effort ... > >> but it's a learning experience that will hopefully pay off by easing the > >> opening of additional branch offices and providing an integrated whole > > > >It might be. Let me know how that goes. > > > > > > > >_____________________________ > >Kris Cote > >Director of Internet Engineering > >StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Storm3 > >> > Communications > >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 22:39 > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > >> > > >> > > >> > Brian, where are you? > >> > > >> > > >> > _____________________________ > >> > Kris Cote > >> > Director of Internet Engineering > >> > StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:02 AM > >> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > >> > > >> > > >> > > I don't think I'd be stepping on toes if I told you guys we're paying > >> > about > >> > > $35/month per analog line with callerid, line hunting, call > >> > waiting, etc, > >> > etc > >> > > (basically the works minus voice mail) through AT&T > >> > > > >> > > That's Canadian so you'll have to work out the currency conversion > >> > > ie $1 USD = $1.65 CND > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Jon Pounder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >Hey I hear ya, I am in much the same situation. > >> > > > > >> > > >PRI or channelized T1 is not really a cost effective solution until > >you > >> > are > >> > > >over at least 10 lines, and need features like the DID or > >> > callerid, hunt, > >> > > >etc. that you would pay a few bucks more each per line so the per > >line > >> > > >analog cost would have been driven up over $50/line. > >> > > > > >> > > >My thoughts were BRI's as well since they work out to about $40/B > >> > channel, > >> > > >and you can add and delete in fairly inexpensive groups of 2. > >> > You get all > >> > > >the CLASS features of the PRI, but without having to buy a ton of > >lines > >> > to > >> > > >get them. > >> > > > > >> > > >BRI channel bank is one option I guess, but fairly rare and > >expensive. > >> > > > > >> > > >I would love to find a bri to pri T1 multiplexer at a > >> > reasonable cost. I > >> > > >have seen a few for sale minus the BRI cards so no deal on them. > >> > > > > >> > > >The ones I have seen do much more than is actually needed here > >> > so likely > >> > > >the cost is excessive when bought new. > >> > > > > >> > > >I am still not really clear why the isdn modems that seem so common > >> > > >can't/won't work in this situation. Is it simply an issue of software > >> > does > >> > > >not exist ? Does the modem do something other than simply dump the > >> > > >composite digital datastream into the serial port ? I am > >> > familar with how > >> > a > >> > > >channelized T1 can be output/input via a v35 HSSI port - Does this > >same > >> > > >concept not extend to the BRI isdn and a regular speed serial port ? > >Is > >> > the > >> > > >issue that a conventional serial port is topped out at 115k > >> > and bri would > >> > > >be 64+64+16 ? If so, how does the modem work in bonded bearer channel > >> > mode > >> > > >for data ? > >> > > > > >> > > >Anyone got answers ? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >At 06:40 AM 3/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> > > >>Hello! > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Several of my customers would like to add a backup to their Internet > >> > > >>connection. ISDN is a good solution: decently fast for a > >> > dial-up-type > >> > > >>connection, yet still faily affordable. While I was at it, I > >> > decided to > >> > > >>look at a couple of more creative telephone service options > >> > to possibly > >> > > >>improve their service or lower costs at the same time. These > >> > customers > >> > > >>range from having just a couple of POTS lines without a key > >> > system up to > >> > > >>as many as 18 POTS lines into systems such as AT&T Merlin or Nortel > >> > > >>Norstar systems. > >> > > >> > >> > > >>My first thought on the higher end was a PRI line. However, the > >cost > >> > > >>seems *very* prohibitive. The average cost for a PRI line was > >> > $550/month, > >> > > >>just for "dial tone"! I've heard others say that PRI becomes cost > >> > > >>effective in the 8 line range, but the cost for the office > >> > with 14 lines > >> > > >>($25/line * 14 lines) is only $350. It would take 22 lines before > >the > >> > PRI > >> > > >>would equal the cost of individual POTS lines! > >> > > >> > >> > > >>As an aside, I did a survey of several of my customers with 10-30 > >> > > >>employees. Most of them have POTS lines only (from between 4 and > >10) > >> > fed > >> > > >>into some sort of PBX. Only one of them has a PRI line, and they > >wish > >> > > >>they hadn't gone that way: they thought they would need more > >> > lines than > >> > > >>they do, and now they feel that they're way over-buying. > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Am I missing something? When is a PRI competitive with POTS? And > >if > >> > I'm > >> > > >>not missing something, is there an alternative between POTS and a > >PRI, > >> > > >>particularly for 5-15 lines? None of the telephone companies I > >called > >> > > >>offered channelized T1 options for local service (let alone > >frac-T1), > >> > only > >> > > >>PRI. Are there other options? > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Finally, any alternatives for smaller companies? I tried to get a > >> > simple > >> > > >>BRI ISDN line for Internet backup for the company with 18 POTS > >lines. > >> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Ameritech (excuse me, SBC) charges $10/month more if you don't > >> > sign > >> > > >>a 36-month contract and wouldn't give it to them without a > >> > credit check, > >> > > >>several pieces of company information, the names and telephone > >numbers > >> > of > >> > > >>at least two officers of the company and a personal guarantee from > >an > >> > > >>officer! This for a customer who has had 18 POTS lines for > >> > *15* YEARS! > >> > > >> > >> > > >>I hate SBC... > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Thank you for reading my rant. I would greatly appreciate any > >> > information > >> > > >>or suggestions you might be able to give me. > >> > > >> > >> > > >>Tim Massey > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > >> > > >>Asterisk-Users mailing list > >> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >_______________________________________________ > >> > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Asterisk-Users mailing list > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Asterisk-Users mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
