Perhaps I am associating you with the wrong company ... there is a Storm Communication in the Ottawa area that is an ISP
It was recommended by users on a LUG mailing list I subscribe to but if I remember correctly, they didn't provide service in my area Storm3 Communications ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:46 AM >Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > >> I'm right here ... where are you? > >Right about here.. >> >> Just kidding, I'm in Stratford, Ontario, Canada > >I'm in Lethbridge Alberta. >> >> As an aside, I looked at switching to your company for internet access >from >> Bell HSE but switched to istop.com instead. > >My company? What made you choose istop.com? > >> >> We have a branch office in Kemptville (currently using Bell HSE - but only >> until I get time to get them switched to something else) that I'd like to >> connect to here via VoIP > > >> >> I have ordered two digium dev lite kits to try to connect the two (with >> asterisk) > >I'm looking at doing something similar, but I can't my asterisk box to work >right. >> >> For two small offices, it's questionable whether it's worth the effort ... >> but it's a learning experience that will hopefully pay off by easing the >> opening of additional branch offices and providing an integrated whole > >It might be. Let me know how that goes. > > > >_____________________________ >Kris Cote >Director of Internet Engineering >StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Storm3 >> > Communications >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 22:39 >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US >> > >> > >> > Brian, where are you? >> > >> > >> > _____________________________ >> > Kris Cote >> > Director of Internet Engineering >> > StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:02 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US >> > >> > >> > > I don't think I'd be stepping on toes if I told you guys we're paying >> > about >> > > $35/month per analog line with callerid, line hunting, call >> > waiting, etc, >> > etc >> > > (basically the works minus voice mail) through AT&T >> > > >> > > That's Canadian so you'll have to work out the currency conversion >> > > ie $1 USD = $1.65 CND >> > > >> > > >> > > Jon Pounder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >Hey I hear ya, I am in much the same situation. >> > > > >> > > >PRI or channelized T1 is not really a cost effective solution until >you >> > are >> > > >over at least 10 lines, and need features like the DID or >> > callerid, hunt, >> > > >etc. that you would pay a few bucks more each per line so the per >line >> > > >analog cost would have been driven up over $50/line. >> > > > >> > > >My thoughts were BRI's as well since they work out to about $40/B >> > channel, >> > > >and you can add and delete in fairly inexpensive groups of 2. >> > You get all >> > > >the CLASS features of the PRI, but without having to buy a ton of >lines >> > to >> > > >get them. >> > > > >> > > >BRI channel bank is one option I guess, but fairly rare and >expensive. >> > > > >> > > >I would love to find a bri to pri T1 multiplexer at a >> > reasonable cost. I >> > > >have seen a few for sale minus the BRI cards so no deal on them. >> > > > >> > > >The ones I have seen do much more than is actually needed here >> > so likely >> > > >the cost is excessive when bought new. >> > > > >> > > >I am still not really clear why the isdn modems that seem so common >> > > >can't/won't work in this situation. Is it simply an issue of software >> > does >> > > >not exist ? Does the modem do something other than simply dump the >> > > >composite digital datastream into the serial port ? I am >> > familar with how >> > a >> > > >channelized T1 can be output/input via a v35 HSSI port - Does this >same >> > > >concept not extend to the BRI isdn and a regular speed serial port ? >Is >> > the >> > > >issue that a conventional serial port is topped out at 115k >> > and bri would >> > > >be 64+64+16 ? If so, how does the modem work in bonded bearer channel >> > mode >> > > >for data ? >> > > > >> > > >Anyone got answers ? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >At 06:40 AM 3/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> > > >>Hello! >> > > >> >> > > >>Several of my customers would like to add a backup to their Internet >> > > >>connection. ISDN is a good solution: decently fast for a >> > dial-up-type >> > > >>connection, yet still faily affordable. While I was at it, I >> > decided to >> > > >>look at a couple of more creative telephone service options >> > to possibly >> > > >>improve their service or lower costs at the same time. These >> > customers >> > > >>range from having just a couple of POTS lines without a key >> > system up to >> > > >>as many as 18 POTS lines into systems such as AT&T Merlin or Nortel >> > > >>Norstar systems. >> > > >> >> > > >>My first thought on the higher end was a PRI line. However, the >cost >> > > >>seems *very* prohibitive. The average cost for a PRI line was >> > $550/month, >> > > >>just for "dial tone"! I've heard others say that PRI becomes cost >> > > >>effective in the 8 line range, but the cost for the office >> > with 14 lines >> > > >>($25/line * 14 lines) is only $350. It would take 22 lines before >the >> > PRI >> > > >>would equal the cost of individual POTS lines! >> > > >> >> > > >>As an aside, I did a survey of several of my customers with 10-30 >> > > >>employees. Most of them have POTS lines only (from between 4 and >10) >> > fed >> > > >>into some sort of PBX. Only one of them has a PRI line, and they >wish >> > > >>they hadn't gone that way: they thought they would need more >> > lines than >> > > >>they do, and now they feel that they're way over-buying. >> > > >> >> > > >>Am I missing something? When is a PRI competitive with POTS? And >if >> > I'm >> > > >>not missing something, is there an alternative between POTS and a >PRI, >> > > >>particularly for 5-15 lines? None of the telephone companies I >called >> > > >>offered channelized T1 options for local service (let alone >frac-T1), >> > only >> > > >>PRI. Are there other options? >> > > >> >> > > >>Finally, any alternatives for smaller companies? I tried to get a >> > simple >> > > >>BRI ISDN line for Internet backup for the company with 18 POTS >lines. >> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Ameritech (excuse me, SBC) charges $10/month more if you >> > > >>don't >> > sign >> > > >>a 36-month contract and wouldn't give it to them without a >> > credit check, >> > > >>several pieces of company information, the names and telephone >numbers >> > of >> > > >>at least two officers of the company and a personal guarantee from >an >> > > >>officer! This for a customer who has had 18 POTS lines for >> > *15* YEARS! >> > > >> >> > > >>I hate SBC... >> > > >> >> > > >>Thank you for reading my rant. I would greatly appreciate any >> > information >> > > >>or suggestions you might be able to give me. >> > > >> >> > > >>Tim Massey >> > > >>_______________________________________________ >> > > >>Asterisk-Users mailing list >> > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >_______________________________________________ >> > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list >> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Asterisk-Users mailing list >> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Asterisk-Users mailing list >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Asterisk-Users mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >_______________________________________________ >Asterisk-Users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
