Patrick wrote:

You have been saying that Radius for billing purposes sucks on #asterisk
and now here. Surprisingly if you google around for billing solutions
you will find many software solutions that use Radius. Back in 2001 I
worked on the billing system at WorldCom and UUNet which generates
billions of CDRs a month.


If Worldcom and UUNet jumped off a bridge would you?

It would be way more useful to people if you could explain *why* in your
opinion Radius is not suitable for billing purposes.



I have been over and over and over this... RADIUS adds another layer of failure to your network, lots of overhead, and unnecessary complication.


Think VHS and Beta... Beta is a superior technology but VHS was successfully marketed. Since RADIUS seemed to work for dial up 'they' assumed it is natural for VoIP, well they are very wrong.

Try doing pre-paid calling cards with Cisco's RADIUS implementation... I dare you.

Why in hell do you think everyone is always looking for a billing system? I have personally talked to dozens of ppl that have spent major money on SysMaster (and the like) and they absolutely hate it. Why? because it is a kludge... It is dramaticly overcomplicated and at the end of the day it doesn't really do what they need.


And while you are at it, please take a minute to share what you think is the right
approach to a billing solution for Asterisk. After all, you have already
integrated a billing solution into Asterisk that afaik you can not share
due to resistance of the "suits".



CDR backend, Rating Engine and MySQL.


I've personally chosen not to share my billing system. First off, my billing code will never see the light of day, so that means a non-gpl license you would have to get from Digium and at this point my operation is not far enough along to support both termination customers and customers running our billing system.



Jeremy McNamara



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