How is the ASCII bit relevant to teletypes? It only affects the handling of the 
sign nybble.


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Subject: Re: Case Study: IBM SYSTEM/360-370 ARCHITECTURE (1987)

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Subject: Re: Case Study: IBM SYSTEM/360-370 ARCHITECTURE (1987)


> The ASCII feature of S/360 probably wasn't used because it's nearly
> useless.

What?  See my earlier report that no IBM operating system could
turn on the ASCII bit.

The ASCII feature would have been useful in talking to ASCII teletypes.

>  Turning on ASCII mode caused PACK & CVD to generate ASCII sign
> codes and UNPK to generate ASCII zone codes.  As far as I can tell, that's
> it.  I'd say that the much later PKA & UNPKA instructions make a lot more
> sense than a system option, so I suppose somebody thinks the function is
> useful.  But you could always convert zoned decimal with NC/OC or, of
> course TR.
>
> ED isn't in my very old S/360 PoOp (A22-6821-0),

no?  Look at page 57.

ED, EDMK, TR, TRT, etc etc are all in this manual.  See Bitsavers.

> but ED certainly came out
> soon, long before the ASCII bit was officially dropped.  Anyway, I don't
> know whether it supported ASCII mode or not.

It did. Both EBCDIC and ASCII.

But, as I reported earlier, no IBM operating system permitted the
ASCII bit to be set.

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