attached.. I am the person with the lines through/thew the words.. lol On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Stroud, Natalie K <[email protected]>wrote:
> ** > > Unlike most developers (which I am not, BTW - I’m a tester), I have a > degree in English. Words **matter** to me, and I think there is value in > drawing attention to whether someone intended the words they put forth or > not. If people are going to say something they don’t really mean, then > they ought to be aware that unexpected consequences can occur. I happen to > be a word nerd, so around me, those “unexpected consequences” often involve > me running a little amok with the comic potential I see in whatever > nonsensical thing a person said. That’s mild as unexpected consequences > go, and if the stars align properly, it even makes that person think twice > the next time around.**** > > ** ** > > Besides, how many of you developers have ever had a client give you a > requirement, which you then implemented, only later to discover that what > they said wasn’t what they really meant? Or else you find out that what > you heard was totally different than what they said and you gave them > something they didn’t need? That points to the need that developers have > to understand and communicate effectively about requirements. I say as it > is for developers, so it is for recruiters. Our recruiter here might have > some people – particularly qualified candidates for whom English is a > secondary language and who don’t find it so easy to make the leap that LJ > so effortlessly made about what was really meant here - decide not to step > up for this position because they know they don’t have 5+years of > experience with ITSM 7.6.x, thus giving the recruiter exactly what he asked > for – nothing – because what was asked for doesn’t exist. If our recruiter > decides he wants to run that risk anyway, well, that’s his right and the > consequences are on him – he’s now been warned!**** > > ** ** > > Natalie Stroud**** > > SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories**** > > ARS-ITSM Tester**** > > Albuquerque, NM USA**** > > [email protected]**** > > ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 – Windows 2008 – SQL Server 2008**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tauf Chowdhury > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:15 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Remedy Developer Opening! - Washington, DC** > ** > > ** ** > > ** Actually, I don't mind a little lighthearted comedy on the list > throughout the day. We all seem to work hard and if an uneducated recruiter > who took the time to sign up for the list posts something like that, then a > little humor aimed at them isn't so bad. Also, I've written job > descriptions and worked with recruiters. The professionals that I've worked > with do their due diligence to work with the client and/or hiring manager > to make sure they get the job description and requirements correct. This is > so that candidates don't think they are interviewing with an agency who > isn't in tune with an industry they are recruiting for or that the company > needing the services doesn't care enough to get a proper job description > out there. > So yes, while we do call out these people in jest, there is a bit of > seriousness to this sort of gaff as well. The recruiters and the company > they work for should be taking this seriously. > ....and I'm done!**** > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC < > [email protected]> wrote:**** > > Come on guys, every single time someone posts to the list they say > something like > > 5 years experience with 7.6.04 > > While, if you read it at face value isn't possible, but we all know what > they mean is that they want someone with 5+ years experience with Remedy, > and related experience with the latest version (7.6.04)....why do we as a > list find it necessary to re-hash this, what seems like every time? We all > know what is meant, and we can't educate EVERY single hiring manager and > head hunter out there...**** > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Stroud, Natalie K > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 5:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Remedy Developer Opening! - Washington, DC > > ****** > > Gee, they must want only people who worked for BMC on 7.6 prior to it > being released and who have worked on only 7.6 implementations since that > time <chuckle>. Which means there might be oh, maybe 1 person on the > entire planet who fits that criteria. > > > > Though I have to confess to being skeptical about whether even that would > result in the requested 5+ years of 7.6 experience, software development > cycles being what they are these days. > > > **** > > I think this is definitely a case of a...shall we say - confusing - > requirement. I find myself wanting to be very tongue-in-cheek with my next > comment, but for the sake our Listers who don't speak English as their > primary language, I shall refrain. Doug Mueller's recent reminder about > list etiquette is ringing in my ears.**** > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Natalie Stroud > > SAIC @ Sandia National Laboratories > > ARS-ITSM Tester > > Albuquerque, NM USA**** > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**** > > > ITSM 7.6.04 SP2 - Windows 2008 - SQL Server 2008 > > > > > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Cook > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 2:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Remedy Developer Opening! - Washington, DC > > > > ** > > Yeah, but anyone with 5+ years of experience in a version that has only > been released for about half that time should be just fine! > > Rick > > On Sep 10, 2012 3:47 PM, "Tauf Chowdhury" <[email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > Man.. 7.6.03? Gluttons for punishment. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 3:45 PM, "Brandon D. Nelson" < > [email protected]> wrote: > > ** > > All, > > > > Apex Systems, the nation's 3rd largest IT Staffing Firm, has an > opportunity for a Senior Remedy Developer / Consultant for a 6+ month > engagement located in Washington, DC (within walking distance from the Navy > Yard Metro Station on the Green Line). Our client, a mid-sized government > integrator, is in the beginning stages of implementing the following > modules on Remedy 7.6.3: Service Desk/Incident and Problem Management, > Change/Release Management, Service Request Management, and Configuration > Management Database Management). > > > > **All candidates must be able to obtain and maintain a Public > Trust Clearance** > > > > If interested in any Remedy Developer opportunities in the DC or > Northern Virginia areas, please send a Word resume to Brandon Nelson, > Technical Recruiter, at [email protected]. > > > > Full Sr. Remedy Developer Job Description > > We are currently seeking a Senior Remedy System Developer to > complement our IT Shared Service Management development team to support > project activities. Candidate must be able to analyze, design and code > enhancements from business defined requirements. Also, be able to > collaborate with internal and external resources, team player and must be > able to effectively communicate to technical and non-technical business > groups. The selected Senior Remedy Developer will work with the > implementation of the Remedy Service Level Management module based upon > industry leading practices; configuration; and integration with other > customized Remedy modules to include Incident, Problem, and Change. High > Level Task Description > > Job Requirements for Sr. Remedy Developer:**** > > * 5+ years' experience with Remedy ITSM v7.6.x > > * 5+ years' experience in Database Management -SQL. > Proficient in BMC ITSM Suite of Applications - Service Desk/Incident & > Problem Management, Change & Release Management 7.6.3, Service Request > Management, and Configuration Management Database Management (CMDB) > > * Expert product and technical knowledge of BMC Remedy IT > Service Management Suite > > * Experience with Remedy Notification System, and > Aeroprise Mobility > > * Experience with BMC ITBM, Atrium, and Asset Management** > ** > > > > > Plusses for Sr. Remedy Developer:**** > > * Proficient in Java and UNIX > > * Proficient in SQL for Databases > > * Experienced in Java, AIX, and Linux OS environment > > * Great communication skills, Team collaboration and > player; Team lead or group lead > > * ITIL v3 or v2 Foundations certification**** > > > > > Education and Experience: > > A BA or BS degree in Information Technology, Software Engineering, > Computer Science, related discipline is required. > > > > Brandon Nelson - Baltimore > Technical Recruiter > APEX Systems, Inc. > 8820 Columbia 100 Parkway > Suite 402 > Columbia, MD 21045**** > > Phone: (443) 539-3320 <tel:%28443%29%20539-3320<%28443%29%20539-3320> > > > > Fax: (410) 321-9805 <tel:%28410%29%20321-9805<%28410%29%20321-9805> > > > [email protected] > www.apexsystemsinc.com <http://www.apexsystemsinc.com/>**** > > > > > This e-mail communication (including any attachments) may contain > confidential information intended solely for the use of the intended > recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you should immediately > stop reading this message and delete it from your system. Any unauthorized > reading, distribution, copying or other use of this communication (or its > attachments) is strictly prohibited.**** > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com <http://www.wwrug.com> ARSlist: > "Where the Answers Are"_ > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com <http://www.wwrug.com> ARSlist: "Where the > Answers Are"_**** > > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_**** > > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org > attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"**** > > > > > -- > *Tauf Chowdhury > > * > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ **** > _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_ > -- Patrick Zandi _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org attend wwrug12 www.wwrug12.com ARSList: "Where the Answers Are"
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