Nope...that's why I specified that role ID's are specific to their
application...so role id -1234 in AppA does not conflict with role id -1234
in AppB...in fact I have a number of apps on my servers that have the same
role id because I map them to the same group... 

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LJ, David: thanks for your response. What if the role already exists in the
destination server? Wouldn't I run into the same issue.

For example:
Source Server has a deployable application (appA) and a role (roleA). 
Let'z say this roleA has a group called Testers. I export this application.

Destination server already has a different application (appB) and a role
(roleA). If I import the application here, wouldn't that mess up appB?

TIA
Ravi
LJ Longwing wrote:
> Additionally, Role ID's are specific to the application...which means 
> that a deployable application can be dropped onto a new server, and 
> have the roles mapped to existing groups on the new server without 
> breaking anything.  If it's a local application then the permissions 
> are tied to a group id...if the group id that the application uses is 
> already in use on the destination server...you are screwed...I believe 
> that this architecture was setup so that Company A could sell an 
> application to Company B without regard for if the group ID's the 
> application was built on are already in use on the destination server
>
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> Subject: Use of "Roles" in Deployable Application
>
> Hi: I am trying to build a deployable application for the first time 
> so I can migrate the application between test, development and 
> production remedy servers. I read through the docs couple of times and 
> still can't seem to understand the usage of roles. I know users are 
> part of one or more group(s). A role can have one group when in Test 
> and another group when in Production. Is that all: All roles does is 
> provide access to the application to different set of users based on the
deployable application state?
>
> So do the groups and roles have to exist on the destination arserver 
> before exporting an imported application from my test server to the 
> development arserver?
>
> Also looks like the advantage of using deployable application instead 
> of local application is that it can be licensesed and tracked. Is that 
> the only reason why someone would use deployable?
>
> TIA
> Ravi
>
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