On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 4:35 PM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Robby Hicks <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hey guys, quick question for you here. We are looking to buy a larger >> block of IP's, however we need to finance this out through a financing >> company. >> >> During the financing term, ownership of the IP would need to be by the >> financial institution, then transferred to our account after buyout is >> completed. >> > > Hi Robby, > > Contractually you do not own addresses allocated to you through ARIN's > transfer process. In the Registration Services Agreement you signed you > explicitly disclaimed ownership. There is no legal ownership, either by you > or a financing company. There might or might not be legal ownership by ARIN > -- that's not well defined by the courts yet. > > 'Ownership' can be achieved. In terms of his question about financing, its an interesting request. It is possible to acquire space and if you properly engage "A" $RIR, you could well call it an asset. One won't be able to finance a debt position in it otherwise AFAIK since if it's not property and you don't own it you can't collateralize it. Organizations receiving IP addresses from ARIN must demonstrate an > operational need. The financing company has no such need. Hence ARIN will > not accept them as the registrant lawfully entitled to control of the > address block. > > To some extent you may be able to make binding legal promises to the > financing company with respect to facilitating a subsequent transfer should > you default on payments. A lawyer could help you figure out how. I'm > dubious about your luck talking the financing company in to it. > > Or acquire assets in $REGION to satisfy the need for a financier to be able to take a debt position in an asset. Hard pressed to believe anyone is going to finance anything but ERX/legacy addresses and only outside of the ARIN region. *But then.. reputable and knowledgeable broker. Or... v6. <---* YMMV. Best, -M<
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