and then you lost me!  And I think I was so close  :(
 
> "did you install the python api into the python Zenoss uses"
 
is where you got me.  I only did an apt- install as root, is that what you 
meant?  I was root as I don't remember setting a user/pass for the zenoss user, 
but I am not sure if that is what you meant.  Is there somewhere in the zenoss 
application you must install it or is the OS level fine?
 
Tnx again.... 

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