Hi everyone,
So the standard is to to treat the different possessor bases as separate
lemmas, without the subcategory tags referring to the gender and number of
the possessor, and instead only the grammatical (agreement) number and
gender tags?
tyacha/tya<det><p3><dist><gen><m><sg>
Something like that? (My understanding is that personal and demonstrative
determiners and pronouns aren't distinguished, but proximal and distal are
for the 3rd person ones—hence the subcategory tags I used.)
By the way, I'm still confused why these aren't being called pronouns. It
was late last night here when we were discussing it on IRC, so I probably
missed something...
Happy holidays all :)
--
Jonathan
On Dec 26, 2017 10:44, "Vinit Ravishankar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
The current UD Mar standard is indeed to treat the two as separate lemmas,
or at least split tokens, so I would go with whatever is the most similar
to that.
Sorry I'm not on IRC, bit busy over xmas. Cheers!
— V
On 26 Dec 2017 9:58 am, "Shardul Chiplunkar" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is an issue which was briefly discussed on IRC on 2017-12-26, and
> Jonathan advised me to post about it here. It is about possessive
> determiners in Marathi.
>
> Minimal examples:
> 1. "tyacha ghoda" = "his horse" (horse is masculine)
> 2. "ticha ghoda" = "her horse"
> 3. "tyachi gay" = "his cow" (cow is feminine)
> 4. "tichi gay" = "her cow"
>
> What these examples show is that the possessive determiners are inflected
> according to the gender of both the possessor and the possessed. This is
> also true for the number of both in Marathi. (There are three genders and
> two numbers.)
>
> Previously, 'tyacha' was being analyzed with the tags <m><sg><gen><m><sg>,
> which is an issue for structural transfer. We discussed two alternatives:
> 1. having XYZ<m><sg>+ch<gen><m><sg>, that is, treating the 'ch' forms as
> separate lemmas
> 2. having XYZ<pm><psg><gen><am><asg>, that is, making separate tags for
> the possessor and the possessed
>
> What is the best way to proceed, with these options or maybe something
> else?
>
> Shardul C.
>
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