I apologize, I did read your post: three times. But I was unable to detect if this was you having gotten in trouble or your users having reported it... On Aug 7, 2012 4:05 PM, "jeka" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dude, no offense, but have you even read my post? > > Like I said: "... I've never seen one!", this is based purely on user > feedback. > > Yes, I reported it. Again, like I said: "They all said the same thing - we > don't allow porn on our network(s)." So, there is not much else I can do to > report it... > > No, I'm not speculating, the users have been pretty clear about what they > see, some even sent links to the porn site landing pages, however, and I > repeat, none of the networks would admit to it. > > The thing is, like I said in the original post, I'm pretty sure they all > say the truth - they don't allow porn. The thing is that whichever netwok > it is coming from, probably doesn't know it originates from them. I was > able to generate similar behavior in my own tests... - show an arbitrary > page full screen while having an innocently looking banner and bypassing > detection. I had it coming from my own server, of course, so I can't say if > it would actually work coming from an ad network, but I'm sure the "bad > guys" are using a similar mechanism. > > So, to summarize: it is possible to show prohibited content to the user > while bypassing detection from the ad networks. > > I only hope Google is not going to hold this against the developer > without investigating. > > > On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 3:35:01 PM UTC-4, Kristopher Micinski wrote: >> >> Have you seen any which display inapprorpiate ads? >> >> It is extremely unprofessional for a network to allow this, since it >> is out of your control and clearly violates Google's terms of use, if >> you see a network which does, please report it here and people can >> write the network and tell them to stop, or developers will quit using >> their service. >> >> Read another way: the network has economic incentive to control the >> ads they provide to comply with Google Play rules. If they don't you >> should dump the network and go with another, and if many people do >> this the network will either die or change their policies to make this >> work... >> >> Your initial post was unclear, but have you reported for this, or are >> you just speculating? I agree it's a problem. >> >> kris >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:28 PM, jeka <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Like I said, I'm using multiple ad networks and none of them would >> admit the >> > offensive content came from them. So, who would you recommend I "put >> > pressure" on? >> > >> > >> > On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 2:10:29 PM UTC-4, Kristopher Micinski wrote: >> >> >> >> I haven't been aware of any services that show ads containing >> >> irresponsible material.. >> >> >> >> if they do, you should put pressure on the develops of those systems, >> >> in a public way. >> >> >> >> kris >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 1:50 PM, xucaen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I am new to Android development, but I was under the impression that >> you >> >> > should be using Google Ads, and they guarantee there will be no porn >> >> > adds >> >> > from Google Ads. If you use some other Ads service, you would need >> to >> >> > check >> >> > with them and see if they show porn ads. If they do, stop using >> them, >> >> > otherwise you are responsible. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Monday, August 6, 2012 1:28:19 PM UTC-4, jeka wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello. The way I read this section in the Google Play Developer >> Program >> >> >> Policies (GPDPP): >> >> >> >> >> >> In general, ads are considered part of your app for purposes of >> content >> >> >> review and compliance with the Developer Terms. Therefore all of >> the >> >> >> policies, including those concerning illegal activities, violence, >> >> >> sexually >> >> >> explicit content, and privacy violations, apply. Please take care >> to >> >> >> use >> >> >> advertising which does not violate these policies. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ads which are inconsistent with the app’s content rating also >> violate >> >> >> our >> >> >> Developer Terms. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> In combination with >> >> >> >> >> >> Sexually Explicit Material: We don't allow content that contains >> >> >> nudity, >> >> >> graphic sex acts, or sexually explicit material. Google has a >> >> >> zero-tolerance >> >> >> policy against child pornography. If we become aware of content >> with >> >> >> child >> >> >> pornography, we will report it to the appropriate authorities and >> >> >> delete the >> >> >> Google Accounts of those involved with the distribution. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Is that should there appear a pornographic ad in the application, >> the >> >> >> Google Play team will hold the developer responsible up to the >> point of >> >> >> terminating the entire developer account. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Now here is the problem: most of us developers have no control over >> >> >> what >> >> >> ads appear in the apps we create. Sure, we decide which ad networks >> to >> >> >> include, and may even be able to control ad types to some degree, >> but >> >> >> given >> >> >> a fairly large application with even a couple hundred thousand ad >> >> >> impressions per day utilizing multiple ad networks through an ad >> >> >> aggregator >> >> >> makes the task of controlling this virtually impossible. >> >> >> >> >> >> I speak (write) from a personal experience. I've had users complain >> in >> >> >> the >> >> >> past about pornographic ads popping up out of "nowhere" without any >> >> >> user >> >> >> interaction. The thing is, the app in question only shows banner >> and >> >> >> requires at least a user touch to launch whatever it is the ad is >> >> >> pointing >> >> >> to. Not to mention that all the ads came from respectable networks >> / >> >> >> aggregators such as AdMob, Millennial, Greystripe, Mobclix and >> Mopub. >> >> >> They >> >> >> all said the same thing - we don't allow porn on our network(s). >> And >> >> >> yet >> >> >> there it was. It wasn't happening often enough to just be able to >> start >> >> >> an >> >> >> app and see it for myself. In fact, I've never seen one! >> >> >> >> >> >> In trying to fight this I wanted to see if I could reproduce this >> >> >> behavior >> >> >> myself. And yes, I can. I won't go into the details as to not give >> >> >> anybody >> >> >> the wrong ideas, but the bottom line is this: >> >> >> >> >> >> It is possible to load a completely innocently looking banner, >> which >> >> >> will >> >> >> then open any (ANY!) site on its own, without any user interaction. >> >> >> This >> >> >> will avoid detection at the ad network level. And, if it shows porn >> to >> >> >> specific users / locations / IPs / etc, chances are the developer >> will >> >> >> never >> >> >> see it as well. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> So, here is a very important question to Googe. If something like >> that >> >> >> happens - a malicious ad, that happens to bypass content control at >> the >> >> >> ad >> >> >> network, makes it into an app and the users start complaining - >> will >> >> >> you >> >> >> hold the developer responsible and just pull the account or will >> you >> >> >> work >> >> >> with the developer in trying to identify the offending ads / >> networks >> >> >> and >> >> >> resolve the situation? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups "Android Developers" group. >> >> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@** >> googlegroups.com <[email protected]> >> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > android-developers+**[email protected]<android-developers%[email protected]> >> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > http://groups.google.com/**group/android-developers?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "Android Developers" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@** >> googlegroups.com <[email protected]> >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > android-developers+**[email protected]<android-developers%[email protected]> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/**group/android-developers?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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