On Monday 28 July 2014 22:29:19 Nathan Stratton Treadway did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 04:38:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > So I'm still standing here on my stump and proclaiming that tars
> > "--one- file-system" implementation is broken.  And has been since
> > somewhere post 1.22.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 05:08:38 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Crazy.  There is no evidence of that shown by an ls -l being executed
> > anyplace in that tree.
> 
> Gene, you asked about this on the bug-tar list back in March, and I
> thought Paul succeeded in convincing you that all the directories that
> cause these "directory is on a different filesystem; not dumped"
> message are indeed mount points:
>   http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2014-03/msg00006.html
> 
> Note that in a way the point of the Unix single-root file hierarchy is
> that you don't notice in normal operation (i.e. "ls -l") where one
> filesystem ends and the next begins (unlike, say, Windows, which has a
> separate drive letter assigned to each filesystem).
> 
> (Also, if in fact these directory entries _were_ symlinks, they
> actually would show up in the "ls -l" output, with "-> <target>" at
> the end of the output line.)
> 
> As others have mentioned, you can easily tell what directories are the
> roots of mounted filesystems by looking at the output of the "mount"
> command (as you listed in
>   http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-tar/2014-07/msg00041.html
> ).  You'll see that all the directories getting these "different
> filesystem" messages in your amreports are indeed mount points listed
> there.
> 
> All the mounts of type "proc", "sysfs", "tmpfs", etc. (or a device name
> that doesn't start with "/dev/") are ones managed by the Ubuntu boot
> process for various system purposes.  They are created afresh each time
> the system is started up, and so (as Joi mentioned) it doesn't do any
> good to include them in your Amanda dumps.
> 
> 
> In any case, keep in mind that (except for a few strange-case bugfixes)
> the only one-filesystem-related thing that changed between earlier
> versions and tar 1.27 is that tar now outputs a warning message
> regarding the sudirectories that it runs across but doesn't back up due
> to the filesystem check.  In other words, these directories weren't
> included in the dumps with tar 1.22 either -- it's just that they were
> excluded silently.
> 
> (So if indeed something was missing after you restored from a backup,
> that issue has some other explanation....)
> 
>                                                       Nathan
Since it appears you are correct, maybe I should be asking for a --oh-
shaddup switch too? :)

If one is printing the report as I had been for quite a while since a 32 
dle backup would fit on one page, it would at least try to keep the 
nozzles clean on an ink squirter.  But it also used about $400 worth of 
ink a year just to keep the nozzles semi-clean.  Then tar started to get 
mouthy and it took 2 pages to print it.

Processing all that, for 2 years worth of Epson ink, I could get a Brother 
HL-3170CDW color laser and one full set of spare toners, which has proven 
to be decent at color, runs 10,000% more dependable on paper feed, and 
despite my using it for book publishing occasionally, still is running on 
one of the original 4 toners in it 2 years later.

So in a roundabout way, tar's mouthyness coaxed me into buying a better 
printer. And if the excludes work tonight, I'm happy, camping or...

Thanks Nathan.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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