I can’t honestly be sure but I can say that the LS-P4 is far better than the 
LS14 for recording quiet scenes.
I think the “Look Ahead” buffer in the LS-P4 is a far better idea than that of 
the “Smart Level” function of the LS14.


> On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:36 pm, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I mean for recording. Is it more quiet than the ls14?
> 
> On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
>> If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 and the
>> LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so again,
>> wise to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
>> The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as I’ve
>> never believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and most of the
>> better quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top quality speaker or no
>> speaker at all.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
>>> but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
>>> the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
>>> on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.
>>> 
>>> On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a
>>>> DM4
>>>> years ago.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with
>>>>> either
>>>>> the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More
>>>>> as
>>>>> an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't
>>>>> like
>>>>> how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward
>>>>> when
>>>>> you rewind or fast forward.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>> Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
>>>>>> I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
>>>>>> I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note
>>>>>> taking.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides.
>>>>>>> Reminds
>>>>>>> me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall
>>>>>>> Neal
>>>>>>> meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100
>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>> I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable
>>>>>>> wiht
>>>>>>> it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be
>>>>>>> seeled
>>>>>>> right.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't know anything about the LS-7.
>>>>>>>> I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically
>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>> than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
>>>>>>>> In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus
>>>>>>>> recorders
>>>>>>>> with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
>>>>>>>> The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
>>>>>>>> last too long.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit
>>>>>>>> Campos
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
>>>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
>>>>>>>> liked that razer look.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
>>>>>>>>> The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
>>>>>>>>> intended to be.
>>>>>>>>> If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
>>>>>>>>> starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
>>>>>>>>> For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
>>>>>>>>> shine.
>>>>>>>>> Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
>>>>>>>>> attenuation patch cord.
>>>>>>>>> The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of
>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>> time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
>>>>>>>>> Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
>>>>>>>>> power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
>>>>>>>>> choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re
>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>> lectures or other voice content.
>>>>>>>>> The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving
>>>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>>> the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no
>>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>>> anyway lights are something we don’t really need.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case
>>>>>>>>>> yeah
>>>>>>>>>> the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that
>>>>>>>>>> zoom
>>>>>>>>>> wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo
>>>>>>>>>> panning
>>>>>>>>>> wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
>>>>>>>>>> with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>> so symple to do stuff on the fly.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I like many things about the LS-P4.
>>>>>>>>>>> First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the
>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>> listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
>>>>>>>>>>> The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also
>>>>>>>>>>> record
>>>>>>>>>>> in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
>>>>>>>>>>> The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
>>>>>>>>>>> recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
>>>>>>>>>>> The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
>>>>>>>>>>> Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> record.. well.. just about anything.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
>>>>>>>>>>>> menus which talk, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> THANKS!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>>>>> HS
>>>>>>>>>>>> K 6 V F O
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> range and does everything well except for playing back audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorder
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows, the voice recorder and camera market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hamit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Campos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> H6
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle more wind.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> share of problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any outdoor field recording".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good as the LS-100 is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aidan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantum power is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? That there's nothing that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows why the Olympus DS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind people used them? Who even knows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How accessible is the h6?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EBay or Amazon go for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that goes to a separate channel?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This question was inspired by the following blog post:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er-or
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software/
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