So what aspect of sound are you referring to, playback sound?
If so then the LS-P4 has a smaller internal speaker than the LS-14 and the 
LS-P4 on playback through the internal speaker sounds compressed so again, wise 
to use headphones or another speaker of some sort.
The whole point of internal speakers to me is totally irrelevant as I’ve never 
believed portable recorders should have them anyway - and most of the better 
quality recorders don’t -, I’d rather a top quality speaker or no speaker at 
all.


> On 9 Sep 2019, at 7:27 pm, Aidan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The dm7 is also just as accessible as the dm4, and it seem to be gone,
> but what I like to know, is how does the sound of the lsp4 compair to
> the ls14? Also the auto gain. I normally like olympus auto gain, but
> on the ls14 they didn't do a good jog there.
> 
> On 9/9/19, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I guess the DM initials made me think the DM720 had disappeared, I had a DM4
>> years ago.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 12:12 pm, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What made you think this was gone? I thought it came out along with either
>>> the P2 or P4. I should look into the 620 either on EBay or Amazon. More as
>>> an MP3 player than a recorder. Because my mile stone died and I don't like
>>> how the 14 doesn't hold your place and goes too far back or forward when
>>> you rewind or fast forward.
>>> 
>>> On 9/8/2019 9:33 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>> Speaking of Olympus recorders I just picked up a DM-720.
>>>> I thought the DM-720 had long been discontinued.
>>>> I plan to use this recorder for general dictation work and note taking.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 11:22 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah the LS-14 design is cool. I love the rubber down the sides. Reminds
>>>>> me of the Zoom H2. I haven't felt up an H2N or an H5 which I recall Neal
>>>>> meantioning has rubber like stuff on it. In the case of the 100 though
>>>>> I've never felt 1 up I do find that there's something questionable wiht
>>>>> it what whith how wind gets into the side. Something must not be seeled
>>>>> right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/8/2019 8:16 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>> I don't know anything about the LS-7.
>>>>>> I have an Ls-14 which I also like a lot but it is radically different
>>>>>> than the LS-P4 and the LS-100 units I have.
>>>>>> In my opinion the LS-14 is the best built of all the Olympus recorders
>>>>>> with a tough plastic body and good rubber feet.
>>>>>> The feet of the LS-P4 are one of the recorders weaknesses and won't
>>>>>> last too long.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hamit
>>>>>> Campos
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 9 September 2019 10:08 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does the P4 look like the LS 7? Which the P2 apparently did. I kinda
>>>>>> liked that razer look.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 7:53 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>> Okay you said what I meant to say in my earlier post.
>>>>>>> The Olympus LS-P4 isn’t a professional audio recorder and was never
>>>>>>> intended to be.
>>>>>>> If you want a professional audio recorder then you’re better off
>>>>>>> starting with the Zoom H1N and working your way up from there.
>>>>>>> For most audio recording jobs however the Olympus LS-P4 can really
>>>>>>> shine.
>>>>>>> Line-In jobs are a bit of a pain but can be done with the use of an
>>>>>>> attenuation patch cord.
>>>>>>> The other remarkable thing about the LS-P4 is the amount of recording
>>>>>>> time you can get out of 1 AAA rechargeable battery.
>>>>>>> Obviously the higher the sample and bit rate then the more battery
>>>>>>> power is used but battery life can be improved significantly if you
>>>>>>> choose to record in MP3 which may be all you need of you’re recording
>>>>>>> lectures or other voice content.
>>>>>>> The Olympus recorders offer plenty of scope for power saving including
>>>>>>> the turning off or dimming of lights and as some of us have no vision
>>>>>>> anyway lights are something we don’t really need.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 9:42 am, Hamit Campos <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ah if ya want perfect than 1 must get the 744-T or what ever the new
>>>>>>>> thing is now. Hmmmmmmmmm maybe it's the 788-T. But in any case yeah
>>>>>>>> the points you made are all true and I agree. I also like that zoom
>>>>>>>> wide feature that even the DMs had. It does make the stereo panning
>>>>>>>> wider on your files. I know it adds more floor as Neal pointed out
>>>>>>>> with the P-2 but still an epic feature. The fact they talk makes it
>>>>>>>> so symple to do stuff on the fly.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9/8/2019 4:31 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I like many things about the LS-P4.
>>>>>>>>> First is its size which is of that of a small candy bar.
>>>>>>>>> Yes the menus talk and you can also set the clock however the file
>>>>>>>>> listing doesn’t talk though that would be the only thing.
>>>>>>>>> The recorder handles up to 96K/24 Bit sampling and can also record
>>>>>>>>> in FLAC as well as the usual MP3 and Wave formats.
>>>>>>>>> The LS-P4 handles Bluetooth so you can stream the audio of the
>>>>>>>>> recorder to a set of headphones, speakers and so on.
>>>>>>>>> The recorder isn’t perfect but for less than $200 Australian the
>>>>>>>>> Olympus is an absolute bargain for those wanting a handy recorder to
>>>>>>>>> record.. well.. just about anything.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 4:16 am, Curtis Delzer <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> what is it you particularly like about the ls-p4? does it have
>>>>>>>>>> menus which talk, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> THANKS!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Curtis Delzer
>>>>>>>>>> HS
>>>>>>>>>> K 6 V F O
>>>>>>>>>> Rialto, CA
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:41 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The problems with wind and the Olympus LS-100 are incredibly bad,
>>>>>>>>>>> you just have to breathe on the machine to hear the noise.
>>>>>>>>>>> My favourite Olympous recorder by far is the LS-P4, at last
>>>>>>>>>>> Olympus have something which perfectly fits into the recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> range and does everything well except for playing back audio
>>>>>>>>>>> through the internal speabut as people know I've never judged
>>>>>>>>>>> recorders by their dreadful internal speakers anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>> Its possible in my view that we won't see another Olympus recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> with XLR inputs and Olympus will just cater for the market it
>>>>>>>>>>> knows, the voice recorder and camera market.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>> Hamit
>>>>>>>>>>> Campos
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 9:19 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
>>>>>>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Oh yeah the wind into the buttons thing. I've never felt up an
>>>>>>>>>>> LS-100 but that sounds like there are openings someware whre the
>>>>>>>>>>> wind is going into. I remember Neal mentioning and demoing this. I
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't worry about it as much as had I got 1 like I do with my H6
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd mostly use my AT-8022. Sure I did consider the issue because
>>>>>>>>>>> for run and gunn quick out doors stuff it would be a problem. As
>>>>>>>>>>> is the over censitivity of the XY H6 to wind. Dude those guys
>>>>>>>>>>> can't take wind at all. Shocked me it did that the LS-14 mics can
>>>>>>>>>>> handle more wind.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 6:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately - as good as the LS-100 is - the recorder has its
>>>>>>>>>>>> share of problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rule number one with the LS-100 recorder seems to be, "Don't do
>>>>>>>>>>>> any outdoor field recording".
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wind gets into this recorder even if the recorder is dressed in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> windscreen, that shouldn't happen with a recorder supposedly as
>>>>>>>>>>>> good as the LS-100 is.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aidan
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 3 September 2019 7:23 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [all-audio] digital audio recorders: looking for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> specific type
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But why did olympus stop the ls100, why did they not make a new
>>>>>>>>>>>> model improved? I am worried because they seem to have less
>>>>>>>>>>>> models now and the american site is not up rite now. Hope they
>>>>>>>>>>>> won't faid away, but even though, they stil didn't get to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> level zoom did, and its defnitly wundering why not enough blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> people use these? I mean half of them might not even no what
>>>>>>>>>>>> fantum power is.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually as an adendum they being Olympus must've at 1 point
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because they did make the DM-4. So maybe they figured it out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> even if when the first 3 DS recorders that spoke only did for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what ever ease of use reason they did to start with.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 4:40 PM, Hamit Campos via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for general recording it's usable enough. the only real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems are that 1 no talking so you will need help when menu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diving. Then 2 no beeps music or nothing like the PTRs or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olympus's so you'll need headphones to know what is armed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's not and how many tracks are armed. But for grabbing and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going meh once you've gotten the menu diving and track arming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out of the way you good. I have 1 and love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got it because it's a 6 channal recorder and it has a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brighter sound than the LS 100. I only meantioned teh 100
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because you asked for a "blind friendly" recorder. Sad ain't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it? That there's nothing that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PTR2 accessible but with XLRs phantum and that is studio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could it be that it's supposed that blind people either don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care for studio gear or don't know enough to do so? Sorry if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that offends anyone but 1 does have to wander why there's no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true studio grade blind friendly gear. Remember friends who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knows why the Olympus DS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 even spoke in the first place. Did olympus know or care
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind people used them? Who even knows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:55 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How accessible is the h6?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:50 PM, Aidan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, just keep in mind that ls100 cannot record from 2 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more inputs at the same time, only one at a time. Whereas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zoom h6 can, and to turn each input on/off, is very easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/19, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There use to be, the Olympus LS-100. So if you can find 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EBay or Amazon go for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/2/2019 3:29 PM, Christopher Wright wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a blind-user-friendly audio recorder that has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XLR/1/4″ combo inputs or one XLR input and a 3.5mm input
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that goes to a separate channel?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This question was inspired by the following blog post:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://thepodcastersstudio.com/recording-skype-with-no-mix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> er-or
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software/
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