> There is no SLA for just firmware updates. So if I want a firmware update say over a year after purchase how much would that cost? If I must have SLA to do that how much is that?
> Patrick Leary > M 727.501.3735 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 1:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k > > How much is the SLA for firmware updates? > > > On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> > wrote: >> No. SLA, yes, but SLAs are normal to maintain support and to get software >> upgrades (not just bug fixes)...and in our case, soon network monitoring >> free for the first year from our own data center. >> >> Patrick Leary >> M 727.501.3735 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 11:44 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >> >>> Quite not the case. Ever price typical LTE? And our licenses you own once >>> first bought, with no annual renewals. >> >> Thought there was an annual license fee to get firmware updates etc? >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TJ Trout >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 11:25 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >>> >>> >>> >>> The sauce better be really really good with all of those licenses. >>> Seems like u have a license for just about everything ? :) >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2015 8:20 PM, "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is there frequency re-use with a 3 BTS setup? If there is re-use, what's >>> the penalty? >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 3x 65s for 360* coverage. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 9:07:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >>> >>> Is there a 90 degree sector or are you using 65 degree sectors in a 4 BTS >>> cluster? >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Only 2 models, the 3.65 (actually 3.4-3.7) COMPACT 1000 or the 2.x >>> (2.3 and 2.5) COMPACT 3000. I included the 3.65 version. The 2.5 is >>> all the same, save for the BTS price, which is about $5k higher (but >>> 40 dBm per port and 43 pounds of brute power, compared to the 18 >>> pound COMPACT 1000) >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:36 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >>> >>> >>> >>> Which base station are you quoting, and what are the basic differences >>> between the models? >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Think of all the EPC options (and there are 3 forms) as shells: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1 is an shell embedded as a piece of software inside EACH BTS...a total one >>> box solution (we can do that since we are a SDR). >>> >>> 1 is a shell that's a small (1/2U) appliance supporting up to 10k subs and >>> 2 gigs. These are stackable and with our NPV option is infinitely stackable. >>> >>> >>> >>> Into each shell option you plug in ONLY the functionality you need: >>> >>> >>> >>> Connecting to an external Radius? Buy that module. Don't need to? Don't get >>> it. >>> >>> If not above, then doing MAC level authentication instead? Buy the iHSSS >>> module. >>> >>> PCRF module. Doing service flows and dedicated bearers? Get that. Don't, >>> then don't. >>> >>> Need Layer 2, get that. Don't? Dont. >>> >>> >>> >>> These modules are in price relative to the version of EPC (baby, momma or >>> papa bear size). >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:23 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] About $12k >>> >>> >>> >>> Never mind, I see that now. How much is the 50 user license? >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Jason McKemie <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is the 50 user limit just a guideline or a software limitation? >>> >>> On Tuesday, March 3, 2015, Patrick Leary <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> One BTS, included embedded EPC with MAC level authentication (cheapest >>> option) supporting up to 50 clients. Antenna could be swapped for any >>> other. NOTE: this exclude any NMS pieces, but you could just connect over >>> Telnet or direct connect. This would be the BAREST of bones, but there it >>> is. That's still LTE and about 100 Mbps with killer NLOS. >>> >>> >>> >>> Includes: >>> >>> >>> >>> 735270 >>> >>> CMP.XT-BS-3.4-3.7 >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 715773 >>> >>> LTE COMPACT SW License >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 700258 >>> >>> BMAX-4M-GPS >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 300736 >>> >>> ANT 3.3-3.8GHz,18 dBi, 65deg, 4ports >>> (RF cables NOT included) >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 715620 >>> >>> BreezeWay-1010-50 >>> (per Compact HW license) >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 715621 >>> >>> BreezeWay-1010-iHSS-50 >>> (50 subs. license) >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> SLA >>> >>> 1 Year SLA >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:08 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >>> >>> >>> >>> No, could be much less. Give me a minute... >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 9:05 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >>> >>> >>> >>> Probably 20k to start. Quality over quantity. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2015 8:56 PM, "John Woodfield" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Patrick, >>> >>> >>> >>> I haven't had time to read through all this emails. Can you summarize what >>> the lowest cost get up and running on a tower is so I can consider this >>> further along with cost per sub? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> John Woodfield, President >>> >>> Delmarva WiFi Inc. >>> >>> 410-870-WiFi >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "Patrick Leary" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2015 8:41pm >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >>> >>> Alvarion did that. I admit, I'm not a fan of capping Glen. It is a gimmick. >>> The hardware is what it is, and this hardware is expensive. 30dBm per port. >>> 4 tx/4rx. Power is expensive. The highest quality DSPs on the market. not >>> consumer grade stuff with the sensitivity of your in home Wi-Fi router. We >>> build our own phy from the ground up too, our own ATPC algorithms too. >>> >>> >>> >>> On the software, we do that though -- enabling modularity and scale as you >>> need to. I think I need to do a dedicated webinar to this community to walk >>> you guys (or those inclined) through it (any takers?). I do not think we >>> can be a solution that makes sense where you only have 15 clients. That's >>> the blunt truth. Unless you are doing 50 Mbps customers, I am not your >>> micropop (but I can do that in some modest scale). That said, I wonder >>> where that 15 number comes from? Can you please explain on what >>> architecture that is based? Range? Height? Etc. If it is based on a >>> micropop and even then on what just that pop can see, I'd say that's likely >>> a model invented out of necessity due to the poor performance of the system >>> you are using. >>> >>> >>> >>> I had a guy on a call today. He zoomed me in on Google Earth to his "NLOS" >>> area. Farmland with wind breaks and shade trees for the homes. He is at >>> 400' and can't connect squat behind those breaks. In my world, that's LOS >>> all the way, even at 150 ft. It is total garbage that so many systems to >>> can't deal with that and you've all been fed that that is "normal." It is >>> not. It is just gear with terrible specs where the only R&D is at the >>> software level, and even that is scant. ....You do not have NLOS problems. >>> You have equipment problems. How such a product ever was allowed to go to >>> market as a "solution" for rural broadband is, to me, cynical and >>> reflective of playing a market to skim opportunistic dollars from a market >>> segment that sometimes seems to embrace abuse. Sort of like the poor 700 >>> MHz owners who got sucked in to buying 20 year old Marconi WipLL repackaged >>> as a 700 MHz "solution" because all there was to buy. Then vendors do that >>> crap and THEN, THEN tell you there's no backward compatibility when they >>> come out with something new? >>> >>> >>> >>> WISPs. Sometimes you guys drive me nuts. You are like cheerleaders that >>> love to date the quarterbacks who abuse you. That is like selling a car >>> that falls apart once you leave residential streets. None of you should >>> ever have accepted these golf carts to run your fleets. Sometimes, cheap is >>> just cheap. >>> >>> >>> >>> Boy, I'm gonna hear it from my vendor peers, but this ain't a game or just >>> a job for me. I damn sure hope it ain't that for you either. >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 8:08 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New feedback >>> >>> >>> >>> Sort of off topic, but what would be the smallest AP we could get? >>> >>> I'm thinking about using this system on a few of my towers to make sure we >>> never leave without a new customer, but I serve a very rural area. >>> >>> I have some towers with 15 clients. >>> >>> Is an omni + GPS sync or narrow channel out of the question? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: Patrick Leary >>> >>> To: [email protected] ; [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 4:42 PM >>> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] New feedback >>> >>> >>> >>> This is an interesting bit of commentary from one of our new customers. If >>> he wishes to identify himself, he will.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Patrick Leary >>> >>> M 727.501.3735 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: >>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 2:31 AM >>> To: Patrick Leary; Nick Dewar >>> Subject: Interesting Statistic >>> >>> >>> >>> "Patrick / Nick – >>> >>> >>> >>> Our Director of Operations, which you both met in St Louis, sent out an >>> interesting email to our staff this evening. In February with only 20 >>> working days we completed 40 installs with one technician... This is only >>> icing on the cake, especially since we are onboarding two more techs... I >>> ran some additional numbers and found that out of the “Telrad” >>> installations that we scheduled, 100 % were successful both of these >>> months. This is a game changer, and it proves that we can eliminate the >>> need to waste further time with the dreaded site surveys. Our success is >>> not without the help of Telrad’s Compact solution. Truly amazing and >>> inspiring, excited for our aggressive expansion this spring/summer/fall. I >>> cannot wait to have hundreds of these damn things in the air. >>> >>> >>> >>> Excited and thankful to be a part of the LTE Beta, and am thankful for the >>> “Holy Grail” email that introduced us to the product...." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> * >>> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has >>> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious >>> code, vandals & computer viruses. >>> ********************************************************************* >>> * >>> ************** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ********************************************************************* >>> * >>> ************** This footnote confirms that this email message has >>> been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious >>> code, vandals & computer viruses. >>> ********************************************************************* >>> * >>> ************** >>> >>> >>> >>> 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