But isn’t your master password something like 32 characters of random numbers, 
letters and special characters?

I have a hard time remembering a phone number or MAC address for more than 5 
seconds, like to read it on one device and then type it on another.

What is it they say, memory is the second thing to go, and I can’t remember 
what the first thing is.

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 6:31 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

My master password will reside only in my little grey cells.  

If it gets stolen then the PWD manager company might go out of business.  

They probably don’t store it, probably a public private key thing behind the 
curtain.  

 

The one I am trying (Bitwarden)  has a way to get it back from your biometric 
facility on your phone.  

So when Chili Palmer wants your password, he will just hold your phone to your 
face…..

 

During this trial of  Bitwarden today.  I was actually using Chrome as my 
password manager for most things.

Not sure what I though a password manager was/is.  Becoming more clear now.  

 

Not sure how much I trust Chrome.  I like that Bitwarden can store almost 
anything in their system and I can get to it anywhere.  

And none of my passwords are on by browser anymore.  

 

BTW, I discovered a flaw in Excel where a protected sheet would become 
unprotected.  That left me uneasy.  

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 4:48 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

I figured his question would be what if I lose my master password, or it gets 
stolen.

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 5:32 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

If you trust Google manage your passwords, it's OK. It works.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/7/2026 3:23 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

If I let Google save my password to the password manager am I leaving a 
security hole?

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf 
Of [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 4:11 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

I don’t know how they work.  Gonna have to see if there is a youtube on them.  

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2026 2:43 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

You'd be absolutely crazy in 2026 to be running without a password manager, 
Chuck.

 

1Password

Keeper

Bitwarden

 

In that order.

 

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 10:00 PM Bill Prince <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

It depends on your settings. 

Of course, you need to unlock the app, but it has options for auto-fill, or you 
can click on the login & it will present you with options (in case you have 
multiple logins for a site), and so on.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/6/2026 7:11 PM, Chuck wrote:

So when a login dialog box pops up, what happens?

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jan 6, 2026, at 11:49 AM, Bill Prince  <mailto:[email protected]> 
<[email protected]> wrote:

 

We have been using BitWarden for the last few years. It's not the simplest 
manager around, but it allows me and Georgia to share passwords for joint 
accounts, and it is open source (the only one I know of that is). It also 
supports passkeys for websites that support it. It works across all platforms 
(Windows/mac/Linux,Android/iOS), and it's got plugins for Chrome, Brave, Edge, 
Safari, and Firefox.

$40/year for a 6-user license.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 1/6/2026 10:21 AM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

Got totally scammed.  Login.gov supposedly sent me a very official looking 
email saying someone had logged in a few hours ago.  Nobody logged in a few 
hours ago.  I scanned the header and it looked legit.  

 

It recommended that I change my password.  Clicked the change password button 
(without looking at the URL it was directing me to) and went to a very official 
looking page.  

 

But it only asked for the new password once.  That should have stopped me but I 
still clicked.  Then immediately tried to login with the new password and I 
realized I was cooked.  So I immediately changed passwords on sites that used 
that old password and properly changed the password on login.gov 
<http://login.gov> 

 

I am seriously considering going to a password managers.  I know nothing about 
them, how they work or if they are trustworthy.  I use 2FA everywhere I can.  

 

Opinions?

 

 

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