Seriously?  That would include routers and all sorts of smart home devices as 
well (although those tend to use apps).

 

“I’m sorry, Dave, I’m afraid I can’t do that.”

 

Of course with AI we may have the opposite problem.

 

“HAL, someone was mean to me today and I feel like ending my life.”

“Yes that sounds like a good plan, Dave.  Here are 10 says to commit suicide, 
with detailed instructions.”

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2026 3:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Password managers

 

It's so frustrating that Google Chrome will no longer recall saved passwords 
for any https device without a valid certificate, that's basically all wisp 
equipment! 

 

Has anyone found a decent solution?

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026, 12:54 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

I use Keepass.  It has worked perfectly for me for years.  I carry the file 
between all devices using Dropbox.

 

$0 cost and I could not be happier with the service.  I have 0 concerns of 
downtime - it's a local Win32 or Android binary.  No dependencies.

 

On Tue, Jan 6, 2026 at 2:50 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

if they get your 2fa, you're screwed.

On 1/6/26 10:21, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

Got totally scammed.  Login.gov supposedly sent me a very official looking 
email saying someone had logged in a few hours ago.  Nobody logged in a few 
hours ago.  I scanned the header and it looked legit.  

 

It recommended that I change my password.  Clicked the change password button 
(without looking at the URL it was directing me to) and went to a very official 
looking page.  

 

But it only asked for the new password once.  That should have stopped me but I 
still clicked.  Then immediately tried to login with the new password and I 
realized I was cooked.  So I immediately changed passwords on sites that used 
that old password and properly changed the password on login.gov 
<http://login.gov> 

 

I am seriously considering going to a password managers.  I know nothing about 
them, how they work or if they are trustworthy.  I use 2FA everywhere I can.  

 

Opinions?

 

 

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