The BOTB round did away with that preference, and in fact it ran in the opposite direction. *If* the current administration was serious about enforcing it, a lot of these awards could be rescinded. I would not complain about that.
On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 5:26 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote: > bead wanted 100% ftth. Other accommodations were lip service to attempt > to appear fair. > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 23, 2025, at 12:56 PM, Jason McKemie < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm not sure how the projects that received BEAD funding in Illinois are > compliant with the BOTB-round requirements. A vast majority of the > projects I looked at are FTTH, which is simply not compatible with the new > rules that were implemented when the BOTB requirements were put into place > - that is obviously assuming that there were any other technologies > competing. It's also pretty interesting that, as far as I can tell, there > were zero terrestrial fixed wireless projects approved. > > On Fri, Dec 19, 2025 at 1:06 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, Illinois preliminary BEAD plan has all satellite going to Amazon >> Kuiper Leo. Not approved by NTIA yet. And no they don’t haven enough >> sats in orbit yet to even offer commercial service. >> >> >> >> It’s not clear to me what about Amazon’s bid scored better than SpaceX to >> win the Illinois satellite locations. The state broadband office is run by >> technocrats, I doubt they would do it just to spite Elon for forcing them >> to allocate money to satellite rather than fiber. If anything, they would >> do the politically expedient thing to help get approval from NTIA. I doubt >> they really consider the satellite part of the BEAD program as >> accomplishing much. Let’s face it, those people can get Starlink now if >> they are willing to pay $80/mo. Maybe that factored into the decision, >> Starlink needs a competitor to drive prices down, so let’s help Amazon Leo >> get going. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2025 12:52 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone >> >> >> >> What I suspect is that they will sell the $120 and $80 plans in an area >> as long as there is capacity, or at least capacity that no one notices is >> below what's advertised. >> >> Once the higher-priced plans are saturated, they might offer the $40 plan >> in an area, or shoot up another 29 sats to fill in the area. They are >> launching ~~ 100 sats a week it seems. What's that? 5,000 a year? >> >> Local operators are noticing that Kuiper is winning grants in some of >> their service areas. What's up with that? Do they even have 100 birds >> flying? >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/19/2025 10:35 AM, Robert wrote: >> >> I would think they found out that the customers were downloading just as >> much data just using more network time to do it. It's a false premise that >> the "extra" b/w in your network can be used for low speed customers, they >> take just as many or more timeslices... >> >> On 12/19/25 9:07 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> People with the $40 service who bumped it up to $80 or $120 for the >> holidays may get a surprise when they find out they can’t go back in >> February. >> >> >> >> The ones who dropped down to $40 while it was available may have been >> surprised to find out that 100 Mbps is just fine and they didn’t need 250 >> or 400 Mbps. Interesting also that the 100 Mbps plan is the same as Lite >> but with a 100 Mbps speed limit. Lite vs Standard is described as >> de-prioritization not a speed limit per se. >> >> >> >> So Josh was probably right they got rid of that plan because $120 >> customers were turning into $40 customers. Somebody at Starlink marketing >> said oops, why did we think that was a good idea. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Bill Prince >> *Sent:* Friday, December 19, 2025 10:44 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone >> >> >> >> Sounds like Uber surge pricing. >> >> >> >> bp >> >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/19/2025 7:17 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> That’s the thing, it’s location dependent. And not in the sense of we >> only have enough capacity in your area for Lite service. More like we >> don’t have excess capacity in your area so we aren’t going to try too hard >> to get your business. >> >> >> >> Checking right now for my home address (Chicago suburbs), I see the $40 >> service is not being offered, it was a couple weeks ago. But it says I can >> get deprioritized 250 Mbps Residential Lite for $80/mo or 400+ Mbps >> Residential for $120/mo. Both say $0 hardware cost, but $21.65 due today >> which I’m guessing is maybe shipping? >> >> >> >> It says if you cancel you have to return the rented equipment. It used >> to say a 12 month contract was required to get the $0 hardware. >> >> >> >> Starlink prices and speeds are like airline tickets or market price >> lobster, it varies depending on location and what day you check. >> >> >> >> Service plans are explained here: >> >> https://starlink.com/legal/documents/DOC-1728-44881-79?regionCode=US >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 18, 2025 10:03 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] $40 Starlink tier already gone >> >> >> >> At that price one would hope...but it's location dependent. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 4:07 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> doesnt the 120 a month customer get free equipment now though? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:41 PM Josh Luthman < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Because their $120/mo customers turned into $40/mo customers. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 12:39 PM Nate Burke <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Had to drive up sales before the end of the quarter, and met the quota? >> >> On 12/18/2025 11:18 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> Not my imagination. >> >> >> https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-quietly-removes-40-per-month-starlink-plan-in-the-us >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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