Also check out:

http://zguide.zeromq.org/page:all#A-Shared-Key-Value-Cache-Clone-Pattern

-Michel

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Chuck Remes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:05 PM, diffuser78 wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> From ZMQ guide I see that pub-sub pattern does not offer reliability, i.e. 
>> publisher doesn't know if the subscriber has been consuming messages.
>>
>> What other pattern would you recommend in pub-sub scenario where a publisher 
>> must know the details of subscribers and how many messages subscribers have 
>> consumed ?
>
> I should write a wiki article about an idea/opinion that I have. I brought it 
> up at the Chicago meetup from a few months ago.
>
> The only socket types that we should encourage people to use are 
> DEALER/ROUTER (and there was some discussion that this could be reduced to 
> just ROUTER sockets). With DEALER/ROUTER, it is (hopefully) obvious how to do 
> reliable communications between any number of peers. The patterns in the 
> guide illustrate this nicely and in most (all?) cases use the DEALER/ROUTER 
> socket types.
>
> For pub/sub, if you need reliability then you absolutely need bidirectional 
> communications at your application level. The PUB/SUB sockets in the library 
> do not offer this, so now you are back to DEALER/ROUTER.
>
> You could mimic reliable pub/sub by using two sets of sockets where the 
> subscribers on the first set would publish the sequence numbers that have 
> been received (or a range). Much like a sliding-window protocol, you could 
> cheaply "ack" lots of messages. But now you need to build in additional 
> intelligence to all subscribers so that they know to ignore duplicate 
> sequence numbers. Plus, you have the complexity of creating a truly unique 
> sequence number in a distributed system; that generator is oftentimes a 
> bottle neck.
>
> Good luck. Let us know what you figure out.
>
> cr
>
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