--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Tomas Carnecky <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Tomas Carnecky <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: XTrap removal
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 2:43 PM
> On 02/20/2009 08:22 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> > [...]. It seems as though it would be important [...]
> could be important [...] could be important [...] clients
> might be broken [...].
> >
> > The user should be able [...] it could be harmful
> [...].
>
> See if you can remove the modal verbs and still come up
> with valid
> arguments. You brought up nothing but hypothetical cases
> and problems.
> Find a single still actively used application that has been
> broken by
> the removal.
>
> tom
>
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I am not sure if there are any OCR applications or screen readers on X that
have been written to dump directly into an application. An extension to allow
all communications between the xserver and client to be captured adn for events
to be inserted certainly would enable those applications to be developed in the
future. Why reinvent the wheel if such extensions already exist. Obviously you
cant have the possibility of such applications without the capability . Your
argument is like saying, why should we add a composite extension when there are
no applications that presently utilise interwindow composition? I actually do
seem to recall a while ago that there was a viavoice speach recognition on
Linux that used xtrap to dump the text into any application. Linux is presently
not strong on speech recognition, ocr, and screen readers and to make any of
this work well there will have to be better support for xtrap kind of features.
x11vnc provides an option to use xtrap but uses record and xtest by default. If
xtest and record duplicate all features of xtrap then the damage isnt quite as
bad but, there are probably apps out there that still use xtrap. Its been a
part of X since 1989.
Best Wishes,
David
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