On 12.09.2024 03:13, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2024, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 10.09.2024 06:57, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> On Mon, 9 Sep 2024, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 05.09.2024 17:48, Alessandro Zucchelli wrote:
>>>>> This section explains which format should be followed by header
>>>>> inclusion guards via a drop-down list of rules.
>>>>>
>>>>> No functional change.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alessandro Zucchelli <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Changes in v6:
>>>>> - edit inclusion guards naming conventions, including more details
>>>>
>>>> Yet I'm afraid that from my pov we're still not there. Specifically ...
>>>>
>>>>> --- a/CODING_STYLE
>>>>> +++ b/CODING_STYLE
>>>>> @@ -159,6 +159,34 @@ Emacs local variables
>>>>>  A comment block containing local variables for emacs is permitted at
>>>>>  the end of files.  It should be:
>>>>>  
>>>>> +Header inclusion guards
>>>>> +-----------------------
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Unless otherwise specified, all header files should include proper
>>>>> +guards to prevent multiple inclusions. The following naming conventions
>>>>> +apply:
>>>>
>>>> ... reading this, I can't derive ...
>>>>
>>>>> +- Private headers: <dir>__<filename>_H
>>>>> +    - arch/arm/arm64/lib/something.h -> ARM__ARM64__LIB__SOMETHING_H
>>>>> +    - arch/arm/arm32/lib/something.h -> ARM__ARM32__LIB__SOMETHING_H
>>>>> +    - arch/x86/lib/something.h -> X86__LIB__SOMETHING_H
>>>>
>>>> ... the absence of an equivalent of the arch/ part of the path. As per
>>>> my recollection we agreed on that shortening, but it needs spelling out
>>>> in the textual description. Such that it is possible to derived what to
>>>> uses as a name for, say, a header under common/, crypto/, or drivers/
>>>> (or anywhere else of course). Specifically with the further examples ...
>>>
>>> Are you asking for something like this?
>>>
>>> Omit the word "arch" from the filepath.
>>>
>>> If you prefer an alternative wording please suggest the text. 
>>>
>>>
>>>>> +- asm-generic headers: ASM_GENERIC__<filename>_H
>>>>> +    - include/asm-generic/something.h -> ASM_GENERIC__SOMETHING_H
>>>>> +
>>>>> +- arch-specific headers: ASM__<architecture>__<subdir>__<filename>_H
>>>>> +    - arch/x86/include/asm/something.h -> ASM__X86__SOMETHING_H
>>>>
>>>> ... here and ...
>>>
>>> Suggested text:
>>>
>>> Omit the words "arch" and "include/asm" from the filepath, ASM is also
>>> prefixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> +- Xen headers: XEN__<filename>_H
>>>>> +    - include/xen/something.h -> XEN__SOMETHING_H
>>>>
>>>> ... here, where more than just one path component is omitted, deriving
>>>> what's meant can end up ambiguous. Yet ambiguity is what we absolutely
>>>> want to avoid, to preempt later discussions on any such naming.
>>>
>>> Suggested text:
>>>
>>> Omit the words "include/xen" from the filepath, XEN is always prefixed.
>>>
>>> Please suggest a specific alternative if you prefer
>>
>> Looks like I still didn't get across my point: The verbal description
>> that's ahead of all of the examples should be complete enough to describe
>> the whole set of rules, in sufficiently abstract terms. Then the examples
>> will be easy to prove as fitting those rules, and it will be easy to
>> derive the naming for further identifiers. IOW - no, I'm not asking for
>> the examples to be further commented, but for the naming rules to be
>> _fully_ spelled out.
> 
> 
> Hi Jan, we have gone back and forth on this a few times, but neither
> Alessandro nor I fully understand your perspective. To help streamline
> the process and save time for everyone, I suggest you provide an example
> of the rules written in the style you believe is appropriate. Once you
> set the initial direction, Alessandro and I can continue and complete
> the rest in that preferred style.

If you really expect me to do so (hence effectively me becoming the one
to make the proposal, which I never meant to), it'll have to wait until
I'm back from the GNU Tools Cauldron and the PTO I'm taking immediately
afterwards.

Jan

> On a related note, I have encountered formal specifications that use less
> formal language than this simple code style and naming convention
> adjustment. I feel we might be over-engineering this, and in my opinion,
> the current version is sufficient. Any additional time spent on this
> could be better used addressing MISRA violations that pose real safety
> risks for Xen users.


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