2009/3/7 James McKenzie <jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net>: > Ben Klein wrote: >> 2009/3/7 James Mckenzie <jjmckenzi...@earthlink.net>: >> >>> Also, please be aware that entries referring to ReactOS, PlayonLinux and >>> Crossover are also being removed. The latter is actually biting the hand >>> that feeds us. CodeWeavers, the producers of Crossover, host WineHQ. What >>> might be a better idea is to state: >>> >> >> It's not biting the hand that feed us. We don't want Crossover AppDB >> data in Wine's AppDB, just like Crossover doesn't want Wine's AppDB >> data in their AppDB. >> >> > Ben: > > CodeWeavers provides a great deal of support and fixes for Wine. Let us > not forget this.
I don't. > Second, yes this should be a USER comment. I for one cannot run any of > the dOOm games on my Intel Mac. The reason is that the OpenGL support > from Apple and the XQuartz project is not 'up to snuff' for Wine. > However, CrossOver Office and CrossOver Games will run these games. Why > the code has not made it back into Wine is not my decision. So, if I > were to write up an entry for these games, I would rate the game(s) > Garbage with the note above. I would hope that this would be enough of > an explanation, for now. If XQuartz were to release a version that did > incorporate appropriate OpenGL code, I would retest and re-evaluate. > This might result in an upgrade of my evaluation, or it might not fix > the problem. > > However, we should not just remove Crossover ratings, unless they are > full blown writeups and then it might be prudent to just remove the > evaluation and state that one exists (or should) on the Crossover site. > This should only be done if the program cannot be run under Wine or > takes extensive amounts of time and effort to do so. > > Of course, this is my opinion. We also have to give users the truth. > If a program is broken in Wine but runs just fine in Crossover, we > should at least tell them that this is so. Maybe this will influence a > developer or two to figure out the problem and fix it. appdb.winehq.org is for Wine application test data. If a user submits test data that says "Garbage" in Wine, with an additional comment that says "I was able to get this working in Crossover Office", I don't have a problem. However, if the test data is entirely for Crossover, or RecatOS, Cedega or WineX for that matter, it does not belong on AppDB. E.g.: "Rating: Platinum What works: Everything What doesn't work: Nothing What wasn't tested: IPX network games Additional comments: I had to use Crossover Games because Wine didn't work" ^^ An entry like this does not belong in Wine's AppDB because it's not actually Wine. It taints the AppDB and the rating change summaries. But if it was like this: "Rating: Garbage What works: Installer What doesn't work: Starting the game What wasn't tested: N/A Additional comments: This works in Crossover Games, but not in Wine" ^^ I don't have a problem with this. (If it mentioned Cedega/WineX or ReactOS, I'd probably remove the additional comment, but leave the test data intact. CodeWeavers products are a special case :) )
