Thank you. I've asked in the ArchLinux forum to build weston with such module since apparently is not currently supported.
If interested, this is the post: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219406 Best Regards On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Ucan, Emre (ADITG/SW1) < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > To compile systemd notify plugin: --enable-systemd-notify > > To start weston with the plugin: /usr/bin/weston --tty=1 > --modules=systemd-notify.so > > The systemd-notify plugin will send a notification when weston startup is > finished. > > You can use this notification to synchronize your application with weston. > > Best regards > > Emre Ucan > Software Group I (ADITG/SW1) > > Tel. +49 5121 49 6937 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wayland-devel [mailto:wayland-devel- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrea Giammarchi > > Sent: Freitag, 11. November 2016 12:32 > > To: Pekka Paalanen > > Cc: [email protected]; Nikola Popovic > > Subject: Re: Weston > > > > pq I don't want to abuse anything but like you confirmed shell is the > only > > usable option I have now. > > > > Of curse I'll update the configuration as soon as autolaunch app is > available > > but if there are no other options what should I do? 'cause falling back > to X11 > > is what I do already for platforms that don't run well on wayland due > missing > > OS drivers. > > > > I hope I don't have to force every device to run on X11 via basic > `.xinitrc` and > > `startx` mechanism so I'll be asking help and hints once it's possible > to do > > what I'm doing already. > > > > It's not "my choice" or "my opinion", it's right now the only way to > achieve > > what I wanted to achieve. > > > > > > > Weston's systemd plugin. The plugin also provides start-up > notification so > > that systemd won't start dependent services too early AFAIU. > > > > > > I didn't know about this plugin. Any link that shows how to install and > > configure it? > > > > > > > I just don't know how to do auto-login with systemd > > > > > > What I do is basically this: https://github.com/ > WebReflection/benja/blob/gh- > > pages/os/sh/install-common#L88 > > > > ExecStart=-/sbin/agetty -nia benja %I $TERM > > > > > > in /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/[email protected] > > > > change benja with your username and you'll have automatic login. > > > > To make weston launch after the systemd service I've linked at my first > reply: > > https://github.com/WebReflection/benja/blob/gh-pages/os/sh/weston- > > compositor.service > > > > > > This worked so far in every platform compatible with weston. > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Pekka Paalanen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Nov 2016 10:18:04 +0000 > > Andrea Giammarchi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for your answer. > > > > > > > you should be starting weston, not weston-launch, when you > > have a proper > > > logind. weston-launch is for users who do not have logind > service. > > > > > > I think weston-launch does more than just weston, in some case > > weston > > > wasn't able to start full-screen but I might give it another try > with > > just > > > weston on that very same service, unless there is a better way > (for > > which > > > I'd love an example) > > > > Start-up problems may have well been because your abuse of the > > shell > > client parameter. > > > > There is https://phabricator.freedesktop.org/T63 > > <https://phabricator.freedesktop.org/T63> with some hints. > > > > One key point I believe is that Weston expects the VT to be already > > active where it will be started on. That might use some fixing in > > Weston, but without breaking setups that have no VTs. > > > > > > This is really not meant to be used like you use it. The shell > client > > is > > > a special client, it is not the place to plug in random > applications for > > > autolaunch. > > > > > > AFAIK Weston is a compositor but it does not provide a way to > auto > > launch > > > applications if not through the shell. > > > > Correct, patches to add autolaunch feature were started but never > > finished: > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2014- > > October/017971.html <https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland- > > devel/2014-October/017971.html> > > > > > > > What you see there is what Tizen does (or used to do) together > > with every > > > other Kiosk based on Weston. > > > > > > Is there any other way to launch a full screen-kiosk app if not > > through > > > shell? > > > > Perhaps with a systemd unit? > > > > Conceptually, both Weston and the app should be launched from a > > systemd > > user session, because Weston is supposed to run in a valid > session. I > > just don't know how to do auto-login with systemd, and the other > > issue > > is the VT switching. > > > > Weston also supports systemd socket activation and watchdog, if you > > load Weston's systemd plugin. The plugin also provides start-up > > notification so that systemd won't start dependent services too > early > > AFAIU. > > > > > > E.g. if you have a floating window, and you want to resize it > by > > dragging > > > a pointer, the cursor is left as what the app last set it, > rather than > > the > > > cursor the compositor would pick. > > > > > > Benja is a Web Kiosk, has no floating window, just evnetually Gtk > > modals > > > and these show up fine. > > > > > > > > > > You cannot have screen locking. > > > > > > I've posted my configuration which disables screen locking, not > an > > issue. > > > > > > > > > > Indications for frozen app windows is missing. > > > > > > if the browser freeze there's nothing else Benja can do if not a > > browser > > > reset > > > > Indications for the user; For frozen windows, weston is intended to > > show a busy cursor. In your case, the cursor will be left what > ever it > > happened to be, the browser window is frozen, and no other > > indication > > is given to the user. The cursor will stil move. > > > > If your browser was managed by systemd, you could implement the > > systemd > > watchdog in the browser process and have systemd restart the > > browser if > > it hangs. > > > > Weston also detects frozen windows, but does not implement an > > auto-kill > > or restart. > > > > > > The compositor start-up will take long, because it needs to > time > > out before > > > fading in since the shell client is not signalling ready. In the > future > > > there might be more things than just fade-in that wait for the > read- > > signal. > > > > > > the fade and animations are disabled, as you can see from the > > config so not > > > an issue. > > > > > > > Until we add the next feature that requires the ready-signal before > > weston becomes usable. > > > > > > > > > If your app ever goes non-fullscreen, you will see garbage > outside > > the app > > > window. > > > > > > it never does that. It's an always full screen Web Kiosk with > > disabled > > > resize. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You possibly see garbage or glitches during startup if you > disable > > the fade-in > > > animation. > > > > > > I don't, like I've said Benja works already. It has been out for > > months now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe mod+tab shows wrong blending as there is no wallpaper. > > > > > > I don't want wallpaper, or at least not a system one, it's a Web > > Kiosk > > > system. > > > > You missed the point. Mod+tab makes windows temporarily > > semi-transparent. That effect will probably screw up if there is no > > opaque surface at the bottom of the scenegraph (the wallpaper). > > > > Users can also use the mouse and keyboard to make windows > > semi-transparent. > > > > > > Those are just what came to mind off-hand, there's possibly > > more. > > > > > > If you think there are more specific for Benja use case please > let > > me know > > > 'cause so far .... > > > > > > > > > > So yeah, it probably works for you for now, if you don't pay > > attention to > > > details and nothing in apps ever fails. I'd call that fragile. > > > > > > ... I've paid attention already to these details and configured > it to > > *not* > > > be fragile. (it's been on for weaks now on my raspi2) > > > > That's your opinion. This is mine. You are abusing a feature of > weston > > in a way it was never meant to be used, and is not intended to keep > > on > > working. It's your choice, at least now you know there might be > > issues. > > > > In the future the special shell client will likely gain more > > responsibilities. Whether that will break your use case or not > remains > > to be seen. > > > > > > Thanks, > > pq > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Pekka Paalanen > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 14:48:53 +0000 > > > > Andrea Giammarchi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > why is it using weston-launch when you have systemd? > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure I understand; that file is a service that's > enable via > > > > > systemctl and it launches weston once the graphic is ready, > > right? > > > > > > > > > > How else would you start weston on boot? Is there already a > > weston > > > > service > > > > > I am missing? That might simplify things for me. > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > you should be starting weston, not weston-launch, when you > > have a > > > > proper logind. weston-launch is for users who do not have > logind > > > > service. > > > > > > > > weston-launch does support cases where logind exists, in which > > case it > > > > remains unused - an extra setuid-root process with no purpose. > > > > > > > > > > No, that does not fully work > > > > > > > > > > FWICT benja works already pretty well and for a kiosk like > > system I think > > > > > the following is enough, or at least it is enough for benja > use > > case ... > > > > > isn't it? Am I missing some configuration? > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > [core] > > > > > idle-time=0 > > > > > modules=xwayland.so > > > > > > > > > > [shell] > > > > > client=/usr/bin/app > > > > > > > > This is really not meant to be used like you use it. The shell > client > > > > is a special client, it is not the place to plug in random > applications > > > > for autolaunch. > > > > > > > > > animation=none > > > > > close-animation=none > > > > > startup-animation=none > > > > > locking=false > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > It may appear to work at first, but you will miss the > corner > > cases. > > > > > > > > > > can you please indicate some of these corner cases? > > > > > > > > I listed them already. > > > > > > > > E.g. if you have a floating window, and you want to resize it > by > > > > dragging a pointer, the cursor is left as what the app last > set it, > > > > rather than the cursor the compositor would pick. > > > > > > > > You cannot have screen locking. > > > > > > > > Indications for frozen app windows is missing. > > > > > > > > The compositor start-up will take long, because it needs to > time > > out > > > > before fading in since the shell client is not signalling > ready. In the > > > > future there might be more things than just fade-in that wait > for > > the > > > > read-signal. > > > > > > > > If your app ever goes non-fullscreen, you will see garbage > outside > > the > > > > app window. > > > > > > > > You possibly see garbage or glitches during startup if you > disable > > the > > > > fade-in animation. > > > > > > > > Maybe mod+tab shows wrong blending as there is no wallpaper. > > > > > > > > Those are just what came to mind off-hand, there's possibly > > more. > > > > > > > > So yeah, it probably works for you for now, if you don't pay > > attention > > > > to details and nothing in apps ever fails. I'd call that > fragile. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > pq > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:57 AM, Pekka Paalanen > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2016 09:44:58 +0000 > > > > > > Andrea Giammarchi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like you want something like benja ( > > https://benja.io/ ) > > > > which > > > > > > is > > > > > > > Weston + Electron based. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It uses a service: > > > > > > > https://github.com/WebReflection/benja/blob/gh- > > <https://github.com/WebReflection/benja/blob/gh-> > > > > > > pages/os/sh/weston-compositor.service > > > > > > > You can enable it via `systemctl enable > weston-compositor` > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > why is it using weston-launch when you have systemd? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You also need to put > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > [shell] > > > > > > > client=/usr/bin/chromium > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > or the application you want to use instead of the default > > > > desktop/shell > > > > > > > inside the `~/.config/weston.ini` file, and this can be > also a > > bash > > > > file > > > > > > > that launches chrome in fullscreen or with specific > > parameters. > > > > > > > > > > > > No, that does not fully work, unless you have modified > > chromium to also > > > > > > take care of weston-desktop-shell's responsibilities. > > > > > > > > > > > > weston-desktop-shell does not only do the wallpaper and > > panel, it also > > > > > > provides the lock screen and pointer cursors for grabs and > > unresponsive > > > > > > apps, plus more. See weston-desktop-shell.xml in Weston > > repository. > > > > > > > > > > > > It may appear to work at first, but you will miss the > corner > > cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doing that also gives the app privileges it would not have > > otherwise > > > > > > (i.e. bind to and use weston_desktop_shell interface). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > pq > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can test that everything works as expected simply > using > > > > > > > `/usr/bin/weston-terminal` as client to find yourself > within > > the > > > > shell > > > > > > (or > > > > > > > you can just use Benja to develop your portable app) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Nikola Popovic < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have installed yocto on my board. Im planing to run > > weston just > > > > after > > > > > > > > boot finish and to run chromium inside weston. 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