Hi, On 21 November 2015 at 01:13, Bill Spitzak <[email protected]> wrote: > You know I have been trying to point out that the equivalent bug exists on > wl_pointer enter/leave events for a couple years now, but all I get is > hostility (witness recent emails). If you do manage to fix this problem, > perhaps you could look into getting it fixed there, too?
The hostility is nothing to do with you pointing out bugs, it's the singularly unconstructive way you insist on doing it. > Using a frame is a method of fixing it, but I think sending the enter event > first, or not sending the exit at all, would also work. Yes, I know you think that, because you've said several million times that you think that. Every single time, someone has pointed out that the protocol as it is, requires a fixed ordering with leave coming before enter. Changing this will break real clients. We cannot break this protocol. That's what 'stable' means. Grouping the events together in frames is a clever and useful solution to the problem, which allows new clients to work better without breaking existing clients. Not only is this a productive suggestion from Peter, but it's also backed up by real patches. In contrast, all you do is decimate the signal:noise ratio by copying and pasting the exact same thing over and over; people give you the same explanation as to how it would break real clients, and then you go silent until the next thread where you do the exact same thing. If you want to solve the problem, take review in its true spirit: read and understand the criticism, respond to it, and produce something better. Something you will have seen from literally everyone else on this list. Instead, you use it as a platform to grandstand and pontificate the same broken suggestions over and over. And you wonder why you aren't taken seriously? I can't take you seriously, because you refuse to engage and improve your mostly poor suggestions. Instead of repeating yourself to an audience who don't care, why not be productive and refine your suggestions to the point where they're useful? What mileage do you actually get out of lectures so useless that your good suggestions are dismissed out of hand, on the grounds that 90% of what you say is rehashed, debunked, and would be detrimental if implemented? Going on past history, I don't expect you to take any of this on board, so it will just have to stand as a marker that I can point you at, for next time you try to derail a thread by derailing a productive conversation into part 73 of a tiresome monologue on how you would've implemented things if given a totally clean slate. But I'd love you to prove me wrong by becoming a constructive contributor, rather than that guy who makes constructive contributors avoid the list where possible. Cheers, Daniel _______________________________________________ wayland-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/wayland-devel
