Emile,

On 14/3/07 22:08, "Emiliano Heyns" <emiliano.he...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Hugh,
> 
> For starters, thanks for taking so much time.
> 
> On 3/14/07, Hugh Williams <hwilli...@openlinksw.com
> <mailto:hwilli...@openlinksw.com> > wrote:
>> Hi Emilliano,
>> 
>> See responses to your questions below inline:
>> 
>> On 13/3/07 21:41, "Emiliano Heyns" <emiliano.he...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> [Hugh] I presume you are enquiring about custom MetaData extract APIs ? Their
>> is not documentationon how this works but their source code for those we have
>> implemented to date are available in the source code. If you would like
>> specific details on location I can obtain this information for you ?
> 
> For now it's just good to know it can be done; when and if I get to the point
> that I need them I'll go through the source and maybe ask again.
> 
>>> 1. If the execute property is set on an vsp(x) resource it is executed when
>>> accessed. How would I still get at the source for editing without disrupting
>>> execution by people just visiting?
>> 
>> [Hugh] As WebDAV uses the GET method for retrieval of a some content,
>> generally speaking their is no way to distinguish between 'edit' and
>> 'execute' request. To allow execute & edit capabilities a special flag is
>> available for  virtual directories 'executable=yes' , which can be set with a
>> checkbox via the Virtuoso Conductor interface and overrides the execution
>> permissions check-box. You can then have a two Virtual Directories one for
>> executing the pages ( i.e. URL which is exposed to public) which has the flag
>> set and create another Virtual Directory which is complementary of the first
>> Virtual Directory, but has the flag set to no and can be used for editing.
>> All the active pages must not have execute bit on, which will is to allow
>> second URL to return the source. The net effect being two URLs, one to be
>> used for editing and the other for viewing the content.
> 
> Great, that would work for me.
> 
>>> 1. I've dabbled a bit with SQL Server 2005, which has a hard 2GB per column
>>> limit. Does Virtuoso also have such a limit? If so, doesn't this hamper
>>> Virtuoso's use as a (WebDAV-based) document management system?
>>> General
>>> 
>>> [Hugh] Virtuoso has the same 2GB limit, although this can be changed it need
>>> be but would break backward compatibility.
> 
> Ouch, I'm going to hit that limit pretty soon. After the music server thing I
> was thinking about extending the existing Virtuoso CMS stuff, but since I'd
> also be hosting image galleries, the 2GB is not going to suffice. I might have
> to look into creating a udt that stores the actual content outside virtuoso.
> Not my preference, but appearantly the 2GB thing is not uncommon.
> 
> [Hugh] Can you please elaborate more on the need to a limit larger than 2GB as
> I am sure if we know more about what you are seeking to achieve a means can be
> devised for doing this all within virtuoso ?
> 
>>> 1. http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/VOSIntro
>>> <http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/Main/VOSIntro>  mentioned 'hosting
>>> non-virtuoso content'. What does this mean? How would I use it?
>> 
>> [Hugh] This refers to content not stored in Virtuoso SQL using its
>> virtualization features to access data from non-virtuoso sources. This also
>> covers procy server I from of we servers via redirects etc.
> 
> Ah, but this is specific for the non-VOS version, right?
> 
> [Hugh] This is possible with the VOS version also, it is only the virtual
> database feature of Virtuoso that is not available in open source form all
> other virtualization features are inlcuded.
> 
>>> 1. In an interview by Jon Udell, Kingsley Idehen mentions a drag and drop
>>> db/form designer. Is a demo available for that? I'd truely love to see that!
>> 
>> [Hugh] The  refers to applications available as part of the OpenLink Ajax
>> Toolkits OAT, which is includes Database and Form Designer applications
>> amongst others enabling the graphical design of Database queries and forms.
>> This is and Opensource offering from OpenLink which can be downloaded from
>> the following URL:
>> 
>> http://oat.openlinksw.com
> 
> Pretty sweet! 
> 
>>> 1. In the same interview, Kingsley likens Virtuoso to Zope. Does virtuoso
>>> implement something like callable objects in the database, or aquisition?
>>> Again, I'd love to hear about that! I have a bit of zope experience, and as
>>> sweet as it is, I just can't get over how disruptive changes between even
>>> minor versions are. Here's to hoping Virtuoso does better!
>> 
>> [Hugh] Virtuoso's User Defined Types(
>> http://docs.openlinksw.com/virtuoso/udt.html#udt)
>> <http://docs.openlinksw.com/virtuoso/udt.html#udt%29>  enable the calling of
>> externally hosted functions/objects within the Virtuoso space, and is
>> compatible across releases thus we would not expect you to have problems
>> across releases.
> 
> Good, I'll have to go experiment with that.
> 
>>> 1. I'm not entirely clear on whether virtuoso-t is a single-database or a
>>> multiple-database server. Can a single virtuoso-t host multiple databases?
>>> If not, does that mean each database would need their own connection ports?
>> [Hugh] Multiple database instances can be start on the same machine using the
>> same virtuoso-t program with each instance being assigned a separate server
>> process. 
> 
> Yes, by starting the same binary multiple times. But can a single running
> instance of virtuoso-t host multiple databases (like most DB products I'm
> familiar with), or does one instance service exactly one database?
> [Hugh] Within a Virtuoso Database instance (.db file) you can have multiple
> databases within, similarly to SQLServer.
> 
>>> 1. Can the hosted languages access all libraries? I'm thinking about doing
>>> some PDF reporting stuff for another project using Python PDF libs.
>> [Hugh] Yes, all libraries will be accessible in the same way they would be if
>> running natively.
> 
> Does this not open a path for security issues? SPs for other DB products can
> in general not (without extra config) load external libraries, access the
> filesystem, etc. 
> [Hugh] Virtuoso has a ŒDirsAllowed¹ configuration parameter for controlling
> the directories that can be accessed in the machine it is running on.
> 
>>> [Hugh] We are also not in favor of open source licensing change have been
>>> bitten by this ourselves in relation to some of the opensource database we
>>> work with. Thus if our open source licensing was to change most probably it
>>> would be to relax the terms,
> 
> But currently everyone working on Virtuoso itself is with OpenLink? No
> outsiders involved?
> [Hugh] This is currently in the main, although we are seeking for out side
> contributions to the open source effort.
> 
> Regards,
> Hugh
> 
>>>  and in answer to your final question below you are currently currently the
>>> connection libs are covered under the GPL license but we are currently
>>> considering making them LGPL .
> That's OK, I'm still drafting the architecture at this point, so no rush. I'm
> OK with releasing my stuff under the GPL, it's just that I'll have to be
> careful about what languages and libs I choose to combine.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Emile
> 
> 
> 
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Best Regards,
Hugh Williams
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