Poojashree,
On 9/18/25 6:48 AM, Poojashree Prakash wrote:
Yes, I am talking about the access log
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=69817
-chris
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 5:42 PM Christopher Schultz <
[email protected]> wrote:
Poojashree,
On 9/17/25 3:29 AM, Poojashree Prakash wrote:
I was referring to adding precision in the log’s time field, with an
option
to record in microseconds or finer.
This would be similar to the request time support introduced in Tomcat 10
and above, which allows using %D. Reference: Tomcat
AbstractAccessLogValve
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https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.1-doc/api/org/apache/catalina/valves/AbstractAccessLogValve.html#log(org.apache.catalina.connector.Request,org.apache.catalina.connector.Response,long)
I'm mostly trying to confirm that you are talking about the ACCESS LOG
and not some other kind of log.
Thanks,
-chris
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 12:44 AM Christopher Schultz <
[email protected]> wrote:
Poojashree,
On 9/15/25 6:26 AM, Poojashree Prakash wrote:
The request is not to change the default logging format, but to have an
option in Tomcat logging to include microseconds in the timestamp.
Having
this option would allow us to enable microsecond precision only when
needed, for detailed debugging.
This is for the access log valve, right?
There was some work recently done to measure request timings in a
variety of precisions.
But you are talking about the format of the end-of-request timestamp,
correct?
-chris
On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 2:48 PM [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
I may be mistaken:
This may have implications on tools like fail2ban, who may read log
files, probably not with microseconds.
If Tomcat would use microsecond-precision timestamps in logs, this
should be an option only.
Regards
Markus
Am 15.09.25 um 11:02 schrieb Poojashree Prakash:
The main motivation to have microsecond-precision timestamps in logs
is
for
detailed debugging and performance analysis.
Other Java-based servers, such as WildFly, are already considering
support
for microsecond-level logging -
https://stackoverflow.com/users/152794/james-r-perkins
Could this be considered, and we would like to know if, similar to
WildFly,
there are any plans to implement microsecond-precision logging in
Tomcat.
If there is a limitation with tomcat9 and below, could it be
considered
for
tomcat 10 and above.
Regards,
Poojashree Prakash
On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 8:38 PM Harri Pesonen
<[email protected]> wrote:
java.lang.Instant comes with Java 8 but there it does not have
microsecond
precision yet (it can store even nanoseconds but they are all
zeros).
Personally I don't see much reason for microsecond precision in logs
either, but perhaps it could be an option.
-Harri
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From: Mark Thomas<[email protected]>
Sent: perjantai 12. syyskuuta 2025 17.44
To: Tomcat Users List<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Support for microsecond precision in timestamps (Tomcat
9.0.108 / 10.1.44)
On 12/09/2025 13:00, Poojashree Prakash wrote:
+1
Java9 and above supports precision logging - timestamp - Current
time
in microseconds in java - Stack Overflow
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tomcat11 Supports java 17 and above
tomcat10 Support java 11 and above
tomcat9 Supports java 8 and above
So, does Tomcat provide any way to log access timestamps with
microsecond precision?
If not, is there an upcoming plan to enable true microsecond
precision
in timestamps for Tomcat logs?
I stand corrected.
There are no currently plans for microsecond precision in timestamps
for
either logs or the access log.
There are a number of things any implementation would need to take
account
of:
- Tomcat 9 has a minimum Java version of 8 so Instant might not be
available for log messages. It is likely some form of
JreCompat
based
solution would be required for Tomcat 9
- Converting the timestamps to strings would need some thought. The
timestamp to String conversions in Tomcat are heavily
optimised
for
performance. Work would be required to determine if that were
still
necessary and, if it were, to develop appropriate solutions
- The access log valve implementations would need to be converted to
use
Instant. A bigger issue is the API uses milliseconds. The API
and
configuration would need to be updated in a backwards
compatible
way
for this to be available on anything earlier than Tomcat 12.
All of which begs the question. Why? What is it that you are trying
to
do
that you can't do with the current millisecond logs and microseconds
for
request processing time?
Mark
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