Thanks Bert,

I appreciate the effort.

(Top-posting, but at least it's in plain-text format...)

Geoff
 

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        From: Bert Huijben [mailto:b...@qqmail.nl] 
        Sent: Thursday, 26 September 2013 2:13 AM
        To: Geoff Field; 'JANIKOVIC Jan'; users@subversion.apache.org
        Subject: RE: Problem with adding files in SVN 1.8.0+. Is it in the 
tracker already?
        
        

        I think I found a bug causing your specific problems in 'serf', 
Subversions new default http library.

         

        The problem doesn't appear to affect Subversion users unless the server 
closes connections aggressively. 'HEAD' requests (as requests without a body) 
don't trigger the authentication subsystem. The 401 from the HEAD request as 
shown in your log file is assumed to be a 'file exists' status.

         

        A patch is available on the serf development list. I assume it (or a 
similar patch) will be included in the next serf version.

         

                        Bert

         

        From: Bert Huijben [mailto:b...@qqmail.nl] 
        Sent: woensdag 25 september 2013 13:04
        To: 'Geoff Field'; 'JANIKOVIC Jan'; users@subversion.apache.org
        Subject: RE: Problem with adding files in SVN 1.8.0+. Is it in the 
tracker already?

         

        I'll just reply in the html form as it will be very hard to convert 
this thread to plain ascii and I have better things to do than spending half an 
hour on that.

         

        The information in your e-mail says that you can reproduce it on your 
working copy; and then Philip Martin says he can't reproduce it.

         

        I looked through your apache log (attached in yet another followup) and 
noticed that about every request first fails with a 401 error and then later 
succeeds.

         

        What authentication configuration does your apache use?

         

        NTLM/Digest/Basic, with what backend.

        What is the maximum number of requests per connection?

         

        Can you send us your apache config (with sensitive information replaced 
by dummy information of course)

         

        Thanks,

                        Bert

         

         

         

        From: Geoff Field [mailto:geoff_fi...@aapl.com.au] 
        Sent: woensdag 25 september 2013 02:25
        To: Bert Huijben; 'JANIKOVIC Jan'; users@subversion.apache.org
        Subject: RE: Problem with adding files in SVN 1.8.0+. Is it in the 
tracker already?

         

        Hi Bert,

         

         

                ________________________________

                                From: Bert Huijben [mailto:b...@qqmail.nl 
<mailto:b...@qqmail.nl> ] 
                Sent: Wednesday, 25 September 2013 6:43 AM
                To: 'JANIKOVIC Jan'; users@subversion.apache.org 
<mailto:users@subversion.apache.org> 
                Subject: RE: Problem with adding files in SVN 1.8.0+. Is it in 
the tracker already?

                                No,

                 

                There is no issue for this specific part of those threads 
created as nobody was able to produce a reproduction recipe for this problem to 
the developers yet. 

        Surely it would be useful to add the issue report anyway, even if there 
is no easy way to reproduce it.  After all, it is a known issue now.  We can 
then work on the reproduction recipe.

                 

                All the threads you quoted end with this request... So unless 
you add a way to reproduce the problem (perhaps with the help of the earlier 
reporters) to the discussion there is not much we can do for you at this time/

        I'm sure I postedthe method for me to reproduce it.    We were running 
a 1.2.3 server served by Apache 2.0.54 on Windows Server 2003 SP2.  I was then 
using a 1.8.1 client on Windows 7 Pro 32-bit.  I thought I'd posted my recipe 
here:

         

        http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2013-08/0035.shtml 
<http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2013-08/0035.shtml> 

        However, this is NOT the full recipe. Instead, look at this post:

        http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2013-08/0140.shtml 
<http://svn.haxx.se/users/archive-2013-08/0140.shtml> 

        That contains the steps I took to reliably produce errors with the 
server/client setup we had.  Unlike most of our repositories, the Playground 
repo has always been FSFS.  The problem happened with our BDB repos as well.

                The problem doesn't reproduce with the currently supported 
versions, nor with the older versions we tried to setup specifically to trigger 
the problem quoted here.

        But it's easily reproduced here, and obviously is at other sites too.

                 

                Do you see the problem in all working copies, or just in 
certain scenarios? (E.g. multiple levels of added directories? Mixed revision 
copies? Etc. etc.)

        I saw itin nearly every case.  There were rare occasions when the 
add/commit would just work, but in the majority of cases it would fail.  

                 

                                Bert

                 

                From: JANIKOVIC Jan [mailto:jan.janiko...@power.alstom.com] 
                Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2013 12:51
                To: users@subversion.apache.org
                Subject: Problem with adding files in SVN 1.8.0+. Is it in the 
tracker already?

                 

                Hello,

                 

                There seems to be a problem with the TortoiseSVN1.8.0+, which 
returns a server conflict when a new file is attempted to be added. We observed 
the problem only when adding files to the server running SVN1.5.5. No problems 
were observed when adding files to our second server, running SVN 1.7.x. There 
are further posts about this issue on the Internet, such as 
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tortoisesvn/cGoClRBMCPc/discussion 
<https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tortoisesvn/cGoClRBMCPc/discussion>  

                or 

                
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tortoisesvn/NggY3JzVJIY/gdEklFV2vLgJ 
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tortoisesvn/NggY3JzVJIY/gdEklFV2vLgJ> 

                 

                Is this issue already in the Subversion tracker 
(http://subversion.apache.org/reporting-issues.html 
<http://subversion.apache.org/reporting-issues.html> )? If yes, could you 
please tell me the issue number

                 

                Kind regards

                Jan

                 

                Jan Janikovic

                ALPRO Implementation Specialist 

        Regards,

         

        Geoff 


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