> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Freitag, 1. April 2011 02:14 > To: Stirnweiss, Siegmund SZ/HZA-ZIT3 > Cc: users@subversion.apache.org > Subject: Re: Using tags with SVN
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Stirnweiss, Siegmund SZ/HZA-ZIT3 > <stirn...@schaeffler.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently thinking about migrating from CVS to SVN, since SVN is said to > > be the successor of CVS. > > > > When analyzing the differences between CVS and SVN I found tags are treated > > in a different way in SVN, than they were treated in CVS, because the tag > > concept in SVN is: A tag is just a "snapshot" of a project in time. > Tags are suppose to be "snapshots" of a particular version of the > application. Exactly, in svn tags are a snapshot of the application, in cvs a tag on a file is what it is called: a tag. > Sometimes you can adjust a tag if you've tagged the wrong > file, but that should be fairly rare. In Subversion, tags take less > than a second to do while in CVS, you have to tag each and every file. > Long files have to be rewritten after every tag. That, to me is a > great advantage in Subversion. Having to tag each and every file in cvs for us is a feature. It helps us achieving our goal in a very convenient way. > > We use tags in CVS to identify the files which have passed module tests and > > should make it into our integration test environment. When they have passed > > the integration tests we use a different tag to identify the files, which > > make up the software in/for our production environment. In addition to that > > our development model is not release driven. As a result we do not tag the > > HEAD of our complete source tree at a particular point in time. > Whoa! That's dangerous. When you pick and choose tags, you may end up > tagging the wrong file. Then, this is a CM error and not a developer > error. That means the Finger o' Blame points to you and not to the > developer who gave you the wrong file or forgot a file. You want that > Finger o' Blame pointing not at you. That's not the problem here. The developers themselves tag files and we have not yet had a problem with this approach. > I just came to my current position a couple of months ago, and that's > exactly what we were doing. Tagging particular files, and then > attempting to build from that tag. I put an immediate stop to that. We > build on the head of the branches now. That has eliminated about half > of our build errors and deployments go much smoother. > Now, there's nothing in Subversion preventing you from attaching a tag > to a particular version of a file. You simply copy files to the tag > directory one at a time. When a file gets approved, you "tag" it. It's > not the standard way to do it, but I've seen shops that do. What exactly do you mean with copy? Do you mean a "svn copy"? Or do you mean a file system copy? > Even better, Subversion tracks when things were tagged and branched. > In CVS, you have no idea when a tag or a branch was created and > applied. Exactly, I also came across that. And I think that's very valuable information. Thanks, Siggi.