eric.b...@barclayscapital.com wrote on Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 17:03:11 -0500:
> Dave, if you look into how the hooks work, basically, they are passed a repo 
> path and a transaction id that, using svnlook, gives you access to copies of 
> the working files, so it doesn't matter where the hooks run, nor is there any 
> requirement for server/client communication.
> 
> Though I do love immediate checkins, I'm not sure where you're going when you 
> suggest that our validations might be better handled some way other than by 
> hooks.  That appears to be the whole reason to have such hooks:  to validate 
> files before allowing a checkin.
> 
> How would hudson help to validate files in the context of a checkin 
> transaction?
> 

Hudson validates after the commit.  But you could commit to one branch,
have hudson validate, and if validation passes merge to trunk.

(David, if you already said that in your response, sorry for the
duplication)

> Eric
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: David Weintraub [mailto:qazw...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:37 PM
> To: Berg, Eric: IT (NYK)
> Cc: users@subversion.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hooks That Use Perl Test::Builder Having Problems with STDERR
> 
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, 
> <eric.b...@barclayscapital.com<mailto:eric.b...@barclayscapital.com>> wrote:
> I'm working on porting a fairly extensive set of CVS hooks to SVN.
> 
> Okay. Stop right there. When ever someone mentions "a fairly extensive set" 
> of hooks, I start to think maybe most of what they want shouldn't necessarily 
> be hooks. When hooks are running, the client is sitting there waiting for the 
> results. I've been at one place where it wasn't unusual for a commit to take 
> almost a minute for reformatting, testing, etc. Those were a group of very 
> frustrated developers.
> 
> Besides, how can you even run your tests? The hooks execute on the Subversion 
> server, yet the working directory is on the client There's no communication 
> between the server and client until the hooks are complete.
> 
> > The issue that I'm having now is that my pre-commit hook, which runs a Perl 
> > script
> > that performs tests based on Test::Builder and Test::More, never show their 
> > stderr
> > on the console.  I see it in the svn web server logs, but not on the 
> > console.
> 
> The problem is that Subversion swallow STDOUT and STDERR from the hooks, and 
> Subversion won't display STDERR unless the hook script returns a non-zero 
> exit value, and only then, it displays it on the developer's console. That 
> may be your problem.
> 
> Do you have  continuous build server like Hudson (http://hudson-ci.org)? Even 
> if you don't need to compile code, you can use something like Hudson for 
> running your tests. Hudson can checkout the project from the Subversion 
> repository, run tests, and then report back the results.
> 
> Moving your testing to Hudson will simplify your life and help keep a running 
> record of your test results. Hudson won't interfere with Test::Builder and 
> Test::More, and you'll be able to keep the test results of all of your check 
> ins in one easy to find place.
> 
> --
> David Weintraub
> qazw...@gmail.com<mailto:qazw...@gmail.com>
> 
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