Hi Jan,

Our company moved away from SOGo more than a year ago. A previous sysadmin 
installed a server - iirc - about 3-4 years ago; a „pre-production“ like test 
system. Our move was mostly motivated by a plethora of bugs that made it very 
frustrating for my colleagues to use SOGo. To be honest, finding bugs like 
https://bugs.sogo.nu/view.php?id=6053 shortly after a daylight-saving-time 
change somehow triggers a fear of Whac-A-Mole of timezone related bugs.

> The bug you linked is typically what I said previously. I can assure you we 
> and others have a ton of events, recurrent or not, and don’t encounter such a 
> problem. So why, in this user case, something is wrong? I can’t tell you 
> without investigating it.
We have premium support (https://www.sogo.nu/commercial.html) where we 
guarantee to look at bug. We can also help for migrating, sizing...

As of today, I'm no longer super-positive about maintaining a server on our 
own. If you know of good cloudhosters (GDPR-compliant data-processor, competent 
end-user support), just let me know ;-). The partner list on the webpage is a 
little short and does not really advertise SaaS/Pay-as-you-go offers.

> You should send an email to [email protected]. We may have a solution for you 
> SOGomail -> https://www.alinto.com/professional-mail-server-sogomail/. And if 
> not, our sales team will be able to redirect you to others.

But getting back on your answer "sogo is old and complex, with rare language 
(objective-c, angularjs material)“ This sounds a bit like technical debt. 
Server-side objective-C might qualify as eccentric, but angularjs was 
superseded by angular years ago.
Do you have mid to long term perspective for addressing the design of SOGo?

> Yes, we do, because, after all, we are our first SOGo customers! So yes, we 
> want to improve SOGo and are thinking about the technical issues. But I can’t 
> make any public claim yet.

My gut feeling is that SOGo gains traction because it is one of the most (if 
not the most) attractive open-source groupware as of today w.r.t operations. It 
could also gain traction due to mailcow. As you already pointed out, it might 
not be very attractive for OpenSource committers, though. Do you have any 
thoughts on this?

> Agreed. And this is the feeling shared by our users and our customers. And 
> also shared by the visitors during our salons.

Hope this answers your questions!

Quentin
Lead Dev at Alinto

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