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On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:07 AM Joel Sherrill <j...@rtems.org> wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:47 AM Per Dalgas Jakobsen <p...@knaldgas.dk> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I've been using Assembler, C, C++, C#, Pascal, Delphi, etc. but never found >> a language so pleasant to use on larger projects than Ada - A shame that >> it's knowledge is not more widespread. Maintaining a +30 year old code base >> of +1MSLOC written in Ada turned out *not* to be a nightmare :-) - On the >> contrary, implementing Web Services (SOAP and REST) and Web Clients into >> this old code base was actually quite easy. The old saying/joke: "If it >> compiles it works" is *almost* right. > > > Ada was designed for programming in the large. I loved going to Ada > conferences because the problems being solved were huge. Experience > presentations always came with a bit of "we tried this and it didn't scale." > Great place to see patterns that work. >> >> Together with two friends I programmed an autonomous robot in Ada for a >> competition - I actually considered RTEMS for the job, but were too lazy, so >> we used Linux for this one, perhaps next year should be with RTEMS? > > > One of the lesser know capabilities of Ada is that there is a distributed > systems annex. Since the package specification boundary is so strong, you can > pick which packages represent services and RPC interfaces. This allows you to > transparently split an application into a distributed set of executables. > Long ago, the folks who implemented that for GNAT had a robot that ran RTEMS > and they used this for the control interface. >> >> If you are interested there is a video of its final run (Danish speaking, >> sorry): >> http://knaldgas.dk/~pdj/robocup/DTU_RoboCup_Roadrunner_Finale_2019.mp4 >> >> Anyhow, books, guidance, etc.: >> >> Book: "Programming in Ada 2012" by John Barnes, ISBN 978-1-107-42481-4 >> IRC: #Ada >> Google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/comp.lang.ada > > > John Barnes is an interesting fellow. I've had the pleasure of meeting him a > few times over the years. Wonderful dinner company! His books are great! > > Also any book by Alan Burns or Andy Wellings comes recommended even though I > haven't read them all. :) > > --joel > >> >> See you out there :-) >> >> ~Per >> >> >> On 6/24/20 5:27 PM, Joel Sherrill wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:39 AM Ярослав Лещинский <midniwal...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> AFAIK RTEMS has an ada support maybe someone can suggest any useful manual, >>> guides, books, etc about this language? Level - newbie. >> >> >> Yes. When you use the RSB to build the RTEMS C and C++ tools, there is an >> option to enable building Ada support. >> >> As to learning Ada, GNU Ada (GNAT) was initially developed to provide a >> path for folks to learn Ada and make it more approachable. AdaCore still >> carries on that mission and has https://learn.adacore.com/ which should be a >> good starting point. Once you are past that, >> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming/Tutorials lists a number of >> other tutorials. >> >> You may be surprised to learn that Ada95 is still very widely used and >> introduced some object-oriented support. Ada 2005 added more object-oriented >> capabilities. Ada 2012 added the SPARK annotation which allows for formal >> program correctness checks. There are obviously other differences between >> the editions of the language but those are the highlights. >> >> Ada is strongly typed, includes tasking, and was designed for use in >> critical systems. A goal is to find errors at compile or analysis time and >> not in the field. >> >> Learn it as a language on a native platform and then try it on RTEMS once >> you are comfortable with it. >> >> --joel >> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> -- >>> -- >>> Kind regards, >>> Yaroslav Leshchinsky >>> _______________________________________________ >>> users mailing list >>> users@rtems.org >>> http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> users@rtems.org >> http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> users@rtems.org >> http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/users > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@rtems.org > http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/users _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@rtems.org http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/users