Sorry, that was file size.  Here is the “arm-rtems5-size” equivalent output for 
each test.

   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
141992    1492 268275512       268418996       fffbfb4 hello.exe

   text    data     bss     dec     hex filename
903856   45204 267469960       268419020       fffbfcc evdev01.exe

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From: users [mailto:users-boun...@rtems.org] On Behalf Of Joel Sherrill
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Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi Rtems-Graphical-Toolkit



On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Kirspel, Kevin 
<kevin-kirs...@idexx.com<mailto:kevin-kirs...@idexx.com>> wrote:
I think that is doable for the frame buffer and non-USB touch screen, mouse, 
and keyboard drivers.  The main problem would be the USB mouse, keyboard, and 
touch screen drivers.  RTEMS uses LIBBSD for the USB stack.

Posting inline below

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From: users [mailto:users-boun...@rtems.org<mailto:users-boun...@rtems.org>] On 
Behalf Of Mikhail Svetkin
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Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi Rtems-Graphical-Toolkit

So the minimal example of Qt Widgets + RTEMS LIBBSD + EVDEV will be ~24MB.
It is pretty big. If RTEMS has support of EVDEV or libinput it will be only 
~9MB.

Qt does not require MMAP, only LinuxFB plugin. I wrote my own QPA plugin and it 
does not need MMAP.




Best regards,
Mikhail

On 21 May 2018 at 17:42, Kirspel, Kevin 
<kevin-kirs...@idexx.com<mailto:kevin-kirs...@idexx.com>> wrote:
To give a little background on this subject, the current support in RTEMS 
LIBBSD for the EVDEV input system was motivated by the following:

- Add a “rtems-arm-4.12-gcc” platform to QT.  This allows you to configure QT 
with RTEMS compilers and libraries.
- Use QT LinuxFB plugin as is for graphics output and system input.

The QT LinuxFB plugin supports the following input systems: libinput, tslib, 
and EVDEV.  I choose EVDEV because it is supported by LIBBSD.

--------
As a quick indication of footprint, the EVDEV test in the RTEMS LIBBSD test 
suite is ~4 times the size of the hello world test.  I compiled against the 
xilinx_zynq_a9_qemu BSP but the results were similar to my custom LPC3250 BSP.  
The hello world test is ~4MB.  The EVDEV test is ~15MB.  The EVDEV test pulls 
in the USB keyboard and mouse drivers.  This is where most of the footprint 
increase comes from.  The EVDEV code itself is pretty small.  The frame buffer 
and touch drivers are also small.
That seems large for the normal hello world. Is that the file size or size 
reported by "arm-rtems5-size"? I would expect something under 256K no matter 
how complex the BSP is. It is often under 48K.

Again is the EVDEV size, file size or real code size?

I agree that having a USB keyboard and mouse requires the FreeBSD stack and 
that has code but that much?


--------
The frame buffer device in RTEMS is not compatible with QT but it is not far 
off.  QT expects the following Linux headers: “linux/fb.h”, “linux/kd.h”, and 
“sys/kd.h”.  I had ported the Linux headers and placed them under the 
“dev/include/linux” and “dev/include/linux/sys” directories in the RTEMS source 
tree (not currently in the tree because the patches were rejected).  QT also 
expects the frame buffer device to support the MMAP device handler.  This was 
added to Gedare’s MMAP work but as Sebastian pointed out it does not follow the 
design module.  This probably needs to be dealt with at some point.

--------
Right now, the only example on how to use EVDEV is in the LIBBSD test suite 
(evdev01).  I guess the QT source can also be used as an example.

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Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi Rtems-Graphical-Toolkit


On Mon, May 21, 2018, 7:52 AM Kirspel, Kevin 
<kevin-kirs...@idexx.com<mailto:kevin-kirs...@idexx.com>> wrote:
RTEMS LIBBSD has support for EVDEV which is a standard API for keyboard, mouse, 
and touchscreen.  Is it the best choice, I don't know.  Maybe a better question 
is "What standard input system should RTEMS support?".

That's the question.

Using the FreeBSD support has a number of advantages but I admit that I didn't 
know that support was in place. I have no idea what minimum footprint using 
that implies even if you don't use the TCP IP stack.

In the cpukit there has long been support for a frame buffer device framework 
and a mouse input parsing library. I expect the FreeBSD support comes with 
specific device support that this is weak on.

But footprint is important. Any idea how large a simple non-networked example 
would be with the FreeBSD code as a base?

And we need examples and howtos. If I didn't know about it, it isn't reasonable 
to expect someone new to find it. :(

--joel




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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Johns [mailto:chr...@rtems.org<mailto:chr...@rtems.org>]
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:51 PM
To: Mikhail Svetkin 
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Subject: Re: Raspberry Pi Rtems-Graphical-Toolkit

On 16/5/18 9:39 pm, Mikhail Svetkin wrote:
>
> I think it will be very good if RTEMS has some kind of input subsystem
> (keyboards,  mouse, touchscreen) with standard API.
>

Do you have an example standard API what would be suitable?

Chris
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