On Sat, 03 Jan 2015 13:54:03 -0800 Allen Schaaf <[email protected]> wrote:
> Responses inline. > > On 1/2/2015 10:50 PM, Brian Barker wrote: > > At 22:54 01/01/2015 -0800, Allen Schaaf wrote: > > > >> Also, is there any way to keep true paragraph markers and yet > >> delete end of line markers? > > > > There is no such thing as an "end of line marker", of course: > > text generally flows naturally between lines as appropriate. If > > instead you mean line breaks (as entered with Shift+Enter), > > then these can easily be deleted by searching for \n and > > replacing with nothing with "Regular expressions" ticked. > Actually I mean "end of line" created by using the "Enter" key. > I'm not sure what you call that marker in computer code, but back > when I was a printer it was called a paragraph marker and used to > signal when to start a new paragraph when proofreading. It was a > backward P with two legs and is still shown that way in symbol > tables. For information, the backwards P symbol is correctly a Pilcrow, but on the en-Forum we almost always refer to is as a "backwards P" which is descriptive! > >> This is a problem I often have and have never found a way to > >> do it. In W$%^ it is easy. I use ^p^p as the search term and # > >> as the replacement. Then I delete all ^p markers. Then I find > >> # and replace with ^p^p. > > > > This suggests that instead of "end of line markers" and "true > > paragraph markers" you are describing text which has every line > > terminated by a paragraph break - in other words that each line > > is a separate paragraph - and that what you are actually > > considering to be paragraphs are separated by double paragraph > > breaks - in other words by an empty paragraph. Is that so? > Correct > >> I get a lot of documents that are double spaced and either > >> triple spaced or double double spaced to indicate paragraph > >> breaks. > > > > Multiple spacing is not a problem: that can easily be adjusted. > > > >> Often scanned documents will have a paragraph marker at the > >> end of every line that needs deleted for proper text flow when > >> a page width is different than the original or I'm making a > >> PDF for instant printing or a book layout. > > > > This is not multiple spacing, of course - but inappropriate > > paragraph structure. But you are quite right that it is a > > frequent problem with material brought in from elsewhere - > > perhaps from a web document. > > > >> Currently I have to open the file in W$%^, do the paragraph > >> thing and then finish my work in OO. Because I have to do this > >> (looong documents) I still have to use Windoze and I'd like to > >> move all this work to my FreeBSD machine. > > > > Try this: > > o Go to Format | AutoCorrect > | Apply. This should merge > > single-line paragraphs into the real paragraphs you need. > The problem I have found with this is that I lose the real > paragraph breaks that I need to see in order to do formatting. I > do use paragraph styles to set the proper leading between > paragraphs. Sometimes I need to change the leading between > paragraphs to avoid awkward breaks across pages. Then I remove > the blank paragraphs. > > o Search for ^$ and Replace with nothing. This will remove > > empty paragraphs. > > o Apply proper paragraph formatting (or, better still, > > paragraph style formatting) to create spacing before or after > > paragraphs. > > > > Notes: > > > > o You can adjust how the first technique operates at Tools | > > AutoCorrect Options... | Options | Combine single line > > paragraphs if length greater than 50%. Select the option and > > click Edit... to adjust the percentage. Experiment (probably > > with smaller values) until you get the effect you need. > > > > o The AutoCorrect facility can apply other changes that you may > > not want. You can avoid this by adjusting the AutoCorrect > > facility (as above), or using Apply and Edit Changes instead > > and then choosing the changes to accept. But the simplest way > > is probably to carry out this procedure on your text first, > > before you do any other formatting, and then to use Format | > > Default Formatting (or Ctrl+M) to undo anything you don't want. > > > > o In extreme cases (your "double double spacing"), you may need > > to alternate the suggestions above. > > > > o Your description above suggests that you still use empty > > paragraphs in your final version to space your material > > vertically. It is much better to use proper paragraph spacing. > No, I don't. Having done typography for a number of years I know > better. > > Incidentally, this is how I advised you last April; I think the > > advice still holds! > Sorry, I missed it somehow, possibly because I was caring for my, > now deceased, mother. > > I trust this helps. > It is certainly several steps in the right direction. > > Brian Barker > > Thanks, > > Allen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > -- Rory O'Farrell <[email protected]> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
