That's great to hear. :-) Gj
On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 1:12 AM, Derik Devecchio <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks! > The two YouTube videos, especially JavaOne 2017,were exactly the kind of > reference that I was asking for in my original question. > > > — > derik > > > > On Jun 1, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > We start by running scripts through the files applicable to a particular > donation to verify that they’re Oracle or Sun licensed. In addition, some > cases individual people have put their own name in the copyright area in > which case we need to track them down to make sure the related code really > belongs to Oracle. In other cases there is no license at all and then we > need to determine the ownership of that file. Similarly for the images. > > The bottom line is Oracle cannot donate that which does not belong to > Oracle and in the 20 years or so of NetBeans existence a lot of non > compliant things may or may not have happened. > > The 1st donation, done last year, was about 45000 files which was about > 4000,000 lines of code. The 2nd donation, which we’re working on right now, > is smaller, about 1.500.000 lines of code. > > This is a massive process and it’s amazing that we’re as far as we are. > But you could also simply go to the Apache NetBeans blog where you’ll find > two YouTube clips, one from Devoxx 2017, the other from JavaOne 2017, where > everything is explained. > > Please do that — watch those YouTube clips and don’t immediately respond > with more questions. > > Thanks, > > Gj > > On Friday, June 1, 2018, Derik Devecchio <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for the rapid response. But I didn’t convey the meaning of my >> question. >> >> So let me ask something more specific. >> On the page you reference there is something like >> *Acceptance of Apache Software Grant Agreement* >> >> 1. *Done: 1st code donation* >> 2. *In process: 2nd code donation* >> >> >> In this context, does the word donation refer to just sending the code >> over? Or the entire process of code review, delivering it to Apache >> hardware, acceptance by the Apache PMC, acquisition of a number of >> volunteers to continue to maintain development, installation of the >> firmware on a Apache server, and integration of that new code into the >> existing project? >> >> That page you referenced also has words like this. >> >> 1. *Done: code written in the above clusters (for example. related to >> Java 9 features) written since the review process started.* >> >> >> Is there any additional information about what kind of review is done by >> Oracle personal before the code is handed over to Apache? What is meant by >> “review”. Is it just a matter of checking to make sure there is no >> proprietary material left in the code before it is donated? If so, how is >> that accomplished. >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I can't speak for other companies. I can't speak for other large >> donations like this. I can only speak for the process that we're going >> through, have been going through, since October 2016, and here it is: >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Apache-2BTransition&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LEbKaWj9ZrFRBadYtwZVnHfoaHpGoEmzs1DrtRBDEg8&m=ANtxLVERdb6x_H09iDvWpZQFOAYbkoJQwyrlel-fobA&s=Uh_LKLqP0fNaLminTxNTQ_EJGG67zysqa08GVO6ik8I&e=> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gj >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:13 PM, Derik Devecchio <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Gj, >>> >>> Is there a web page somewhere that documents the process that a large >>> company like Oracle goes through to make a large donation like this? >>> >>> It is probably more complicated than going to the Java group and saying >>> “Pack all your source code in a zip file and send it to Apache. Tell them >>> to write a script to remove our name from every source file and add theirs >>> if they want”. >>> >>> On the other hand you make it sound like there were lawyers pouring over >>> every line of source to make sure there is no liability to releasing it. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> No offence, but please read the blog: >>> >>> https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netb >>> eans-incubating-91 >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__blogs.apache.org_netbeans_entry_announce-2Dapache-2Dnetbeans-2Dincubating-2D91&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LEbKaWj9ZrFRBadYtwZVnHfoaHpGoEmzs1DrtRBDEg8&m=pAsthN5mTLTxTV76L-T7dfqvT3N-11So9VGVhnjwUTA&s=WiyZh0HCLRkT2eG4H8smfJBxc0eD4rwtGUirKJNNr6I&e=> >>> >>> Whoever you think "Oracle" is, Oracle is me, and many others in Oracle >>> who have contributed to Apache NetBeans from the beginning: >>> >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans_graphs_contributors&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=LEbKaWj9ZrFRBadYtwZVnHfoaHpGoEmzs1DrtRBDEg8&m=pAsthN5mTLTxTV76L-T7dfqvT3N-11So9VGVhnjwUTA&s=bq4cRLkETuc43EDiSVn3CTj7nnL5snbkEGH26qAom84&e=> >>> >>> Above, I see many people from Oracle. I don't see you. I therefore >>> prefer people from Oracle. :-) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gj >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Karl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> No offense, but what use is a Java IDE in 2018 without support for web >>>> applications? >>>> >>>> If that is Oracle's secret plan to kill NetBeans by making it unusable >>>> for professional development, it's working. >>>> >>>> Is there at least a time frame on why Oracle wants to donate that? (If >>>> they actually pan to do that) >>>> >>>> Karl >>>> >>>> Am 30.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga: >>>> >>>> Not in 9.0, which is focused on Java SE only. All the JavaScript >>>> features (and Java EE, PHP, Groovy, C/C++) must still be donated to Apache >>>> by Oracle. >>>> >>>> Gj >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018, Mark A. Claassen <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have an Angular application that works just fine running “ng serve” >>>>> from the command line. What is the best way to run this project in >>>>> netbeans? I found some things on the internet, but they seem out of date >>>>> or not quite what I want. Can I run this as a Node.js application and >>>>> with >>>>> the correct project properties, have netbeans run “ng serve”? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark Claassen >>>>> >>>>> Senior Software Engineer >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >
