Hello Werner and Rudy,

Thanks for the answers!

I did also some work to find a good solution for working with ExtVal.
For me it is working now. I did find out that problems do appear on my Windows 
XP machine.
On the Mac with Snow Leopard 10.6.3 things are working better. So let me 
explain what I did.

I'm working with Eclipse Galileo 3.5.2 JEE with JBoss VE plugin for RichFaces 
on both the Mac and Windows XP.
Both systems are running Java 1.6.0_17. Also on both systems I have Tomcat 
6.0.20.
For deployment only I use an Ubuntu 9.10 machine with Tomcat 6.0.20 and OpenJDK 
6.

For development I do start or debug Tomcat in Eclipse.
I do build the war file with Ant and deploy it to the webapps directory of 
Tomcat.
Tomcat redeploys (and unpacks) the webpapp after adding the war file to the 
webapps directory.

Now I only have the MySQL driver software in the lib directory of Tomcat.
The rest of the libraries I now do have in the WEB-INF/lib directory of the 
webapp.
The following is a list of my files in the WEB-INF/lib directory:

asm-3.2.jar
cglib-2.2.jar
commons-beanutils-1.8.0.jar
commons-collections-3.2.1.jar
commons-digester-1.8.jar
commons-lang-2.4.jar
commons-logging-1.1.1.jar
extval-annotation-based-bypass-validation-1.2.3.jar
ibatis-2.3.4.726.jar
jsf-api-mojarra-1.2_14-b01.jar
jsf-facelets-1.1.15.B1.jar
jsf-impl-mojarra-1.2_14-b01.jar
jstl-1.2.jar
myfaces-extval-core-1.2.3.jar
myfaces-extval-generic-support-1.2.3.jar
myfaces-extval-property-validation-1.2.3.jar
richfaces-api-3.3.3.Final.jar
richfaces-impl-3.3.3.Final.jar
richfaces-ui-3.3.3.Final.jar

Now on Windows with Tomcat 6.0.20 redeploying the webapp hangs on Undeploying.
At least that's the last message on the console.

The same configuration on the Mac works perfectly fine. No problem with 
redeploying the webapp to a running Tomcat engine.
It just onloads the old webapp and reloads the new webapp.

I downloaded the Tomcat 6.0.26 32 bit version for Windows, configured it the 
same as 6.0.20 and redeploying works also fine on Windows.
But only if I start Tomcat from the command line via catalina.bat.
Starting Tomcat from Eclipse did still hang on redeploying also for Tomcat 
6.0.26.
Then I searched for the difference between starting Tomcat from the command 
line and starting Tomcat in Eclipse.
Eclipse is just using the Bootstrap.jar and passing parameters where the 
catalina.bat defines a lot more defaults.
I added the 2 vm parameters for configuring Tomcat JULI logging from the 
catalina.bat to the startup parameters where Eclipse starts Tomcat.
Because Tomcat was not logging anything when started from Eclipse.
And guess what, redeploying the webapp to Tomcat 6.0.26 running in Eclipse 
works also fine.

Redeploying on on the Mac looks more robust than on Windows. On the Mac it also 
works for Tomcat 6.0.20.
I still don't know the real reason why the webapp won't unload on Windows with 
Tomcat 6.0.20 but I have a workaround.

I'm able to go all the way with ExtVal because until now I did not add any JSF 
validation to the webapp.
With the bypass annotation I'm able to build behavior of our desktop 
applications in the webapp.
I also like the @Pattern annotation.  

Q3

I now have my translated messages in the file Messages_nl_NL.properties. Extval 
is showing the Dutch messages. But for the Pattern annotation it gives an 
English message like "Invalid format". Where can I translate these messages and 
do they also use the label of the UI object?


Regards,

Johan



On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Werner Punz wrote:

> Ok I did some initial testing, Ext-Val + MyFaces Ext-Scripting works
> but the dynamic reloading only works for constraints,
> Validation group reloading does not work yet, due to caching
> on Ext-Vals side as it seems.
> I will work with Gerhard on this issue to resolve
> it in the near future, but if you can live with what is there
> either use JSF2s bean validation support or do the occasional restart if you 
> need to alter the Validation group settings.
> 
> Werner
> 
> 
> Am 16.04.10 13:38, schrieb Werner Punz:
>> Am 16.04.10 13:16, schrieb Gerhard Petracek:
>>> hi johan,
>>> 
>>> some additions:
>>> as mentioned by rudy: the "required"-attribute is quite special in
>>> combination with component initialization. i'll add some information
>>> about
>>> it in our new wiki. concerning your concrete issues: it would be nice
>>> if you
>>> can provide a link to a small demo app which illustrates the issue (to
>>> ensure that we are talking about the same details).
>>> 
>>>> Where to place the Extval libraries?
>>> 
>>> you could customize it via a custom message resolver.
>>> as alternative you could use myfaces-core + ext-scripting - so you don't
>>> have to restart tomcat...
>>> 
>> Well I have not tested the combo yet, I wanted to do it this week but
>> haven“t found enough time, but feel free to try ext-scripting in that
>> combination, but I cannot gurantee that it works, not before next week
>> before the final testing round before 1.0, as long as you stay on the
>> JSF side it can help you to save a lot of restarts.
>> 
>> Alternatively you can use jRebel to avoid restarts.
>> 
>> Here is the info regarding ext-scripting (no official site yet)
>> http://people.apache.org/~werpu/ext-script-site/ I highly recommend
>> to make a checkout and build, the last beta had some serious bugs which
>> I fixed in between.
>> Have in mind Ext-Scripting currently only works on MyFaces not on
>> Mojarra, Mojarra support will be added but is not on the TODO list
>> for 1.0, also additional framework support is in the works but will
>> not be in 1.0.
>> 
>> Here is the info regarding jRebel:
>> http://www.zeroturnaround.com/
>> 
>> 
>> Werner
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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