Hi Todd!

Is it a) an enhancement to the maven-scm-plugin itself?
Or b) does it dig deeper into maven-scm and we have to change the scm-API too?

For both options you'd probably file a Jira [1] which describes the motivation 
and the changes you like to do first. Then you may attach a patch or provide 
your changes via a online repo.
I personally would prefer git ;)

For option b) we should definitely switch over to the scm-dev list again.

LieGrue,
strub

[1] http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/SCM


--- Todd Thiessen <[email protected]> schrieb am Di, 13.1.2009:

> Von: Todd Thiessen <[email protected]>
> Betreff: RE: SCM plugin project
> An: "Maven Users List" <[email protected]>
> Datum: Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009, 22:39
> Thanks Dan. I think I understand the reasoning for the
> distintion. Now I
> would like to get a fix/enhancement built and submitted.
> 
> I can revisit this issue again (I have for the most part
> dropped it for
> this week) and work on simply building the maven-scm-plugin
> project and
> not all of maven-scm.  I wouldn't mind in parrallel
> going through the
> steps to get my contribution reviewed, submitted and cut a
> new release
> of the plugin.
> 
> ---
> Todd Thiessen
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Tran [mailto:[email protected]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:28 PM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: SCM plugin project
> > 
> > the maven-scm-plugin inherits from maven-plugins'
> project 
> > which make sense since it is a plugin.  But that
> introduces confusion.
> > 
> > We can follow the surefire model, to make the plugins 
> > inherits from surefire's parent but change groupId
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Todd Thiessen 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Thanks for the response Mark.
> > >
> > > Are you considered an SCM committer/developer? I
> have a 
> > > fix/enchancement I would like to submit and am
> seeking some 
> > guidance.
> > >
> > > If we should take this strictly to the scm-dev
> list that is 
> > fine too. 
> > > I don't want to create unnessary noice on the
> Maven list although 
> > > there may be others would are looking to do this
> too.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Todd Thiessen
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Mark Struberg
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:06 PM
> > >> To: [email protected]; Maven Users
> List
> > >> Subject: RE: SCM plugin project
> > >>
> > >> Hi Todd!
> > >>
> > >> maven-scm defines a SPI + a few plugins for
> various SCMs.
> > >> But although the name of the project is
> maven-scm it is not only 
> > >> intended to be used with maven only. There
> are other projecs (e.g. 
> > >> continuum) which use maven-scm for accessing
> SCMs without maven.
> > >>
> > >> The maven-scm-plugin on the other side is
> really a 
> > maven-plugin! And 
> > >> maven-scm-plugin uses maven-scm to access the
> SCM you are using.
> > >>
> > >> That's the reason why maven-scm-plugin
> uses the common parent pom 
> > >> used for all maven-plugins (see
> maven-plugin-plugin for 
> > more details) 
> > >> and maven-scm doesn't.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> LieGrue,
> > >> strub
> > >>
> > >> --- Todd Thiessen <[email protected]>
> schrieb am Di, 13.1.2009:
> > >>
> > >> > Von: Todd Thiessen
> <[email protected]>
> > >> > Betreff: RE: SCM plugin project
> > >> > An: [email protected]
> > >> > CC: "Maven Users List"
> <[email protected]>
> > >> > Datum: Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009, 18:47
> I haven't gotten 
> > a response 
> > >> > from an SCM plugin development person.
> > >> > Perhaps someone on the Maven list could
> guide me in the right 
> > >> > direction.
> > >> > I would like contribute a fix to the SCM
> plugin. I am
> > >> trying to build
> > >> > the project but I have questions/issues.
>  Who can I talk to
> > >> regarding
> > >> > these?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks all. And sorry for creating some
> noise on the Maven list.
> > >> >
> > >> > ---
> > >> > Todd Thiessen
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Thiessen, Todd (BVW:9T16)
> > >> > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 5:13
> PM
> > >> > > To:
> '[email protected]'
> > >> > > Cc: 'Maven Users List'
> > >> > > Subject: SCM plugin project
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I have downloaded the source for
> this project have and
> > >> > have a
> > >> > > number questions/concerns.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Most of the code seems be under the
> scm directory. ie:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/scm
> > >> > >
> > >> > > There is a POM at the highest
> level, with an artifact
> > >> > ID of
> > >> > > maven-scm, which indicates many
> sub-directories as
> > >> > sub-modules.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However, there is one sub-module
> that confuses me:
> > >> > > maven-scm-plugin. You would
> normally expect the parent
> > >> > for
> > >> > > this pom to be the parent in the
> higher directory.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > However, this isn't the case.
> Its parent is
> > >> > maven-plugins
> > >> > > which is a different artifact
> altogether. This really
> > >> > seems
> > >> > > to make building and versioning of
> the entire project
> > >> > confusing.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Do you release the maven-scm
> project or the
> > >> > maven-scm-plugin
> > >> > > project? I naturally expected to
> release the maven-scm
> > >> >
> > >> > > project but the maven-scm-plugin
> stands out in that it
> > >> >
> > >> > > doesn't define maven-scm as the
> parent and it also
> > >> > includes
> > >> > > all the maven-scm submodule
> projects as dependancies
> > >> > by
> > >> > > explicitly specifying their
> version. How are the
> > >> > version
> > >> > > numbers of all these dependencies
> incremented when a
> > >> > new
> > >> > > version of the plugin is released?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > ---
> > >> > > Todd Thiessen
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> 
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