>
> On the build process itself, it has no meaning to parallelize it as you
> properly pointed out.
>

May this is true on Java...

But on flex is not.  Flex compilation always use 100% on a single core
computer and never use more them 50% on multi core.

Well, if we got downloads and tests multithreaded I will be very very happy
=D


VELO

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Simone Gianni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dana,
> you are absolutely right, but there are a few things Maven could do to
> improve speed : using multiple threads/cpus :
> - Maven downloads stuff. Now, since the network exists, it exists
> latency, and all net applications work best when multithreaded. Is maven
> currently parallelizing the jar downloads/the connections it makes to
> test if there are new releases of the artifacts? That could speed up a
> lot, expecially on first time users, first time they download stuff,
> first time they see maven as slow :)
> - Unit tests are, by DEFINITION, parallelizable. Maven could create more
> of one instance of the test runner, create a shared list of test
> methods, and have various instances run on different threads and pick a
> test method from the list. Failure of a test does not stop execution of
> other tests in the same package, so it's safe to do so.
>
> On the build process itself, it has no meaning to parallelize it as you
> properly pointed out.
>
> Simone
>
> Lacoste, Dana (TSG Software San Diego) wrote:
> > The situation below (deploying to multiple J2EE platforms in the build)
> > is already easily supported: you're using ant to do it, and ant supports
> > a "parallel" section
> http://ant.apache.org/manual/CoreTasks/parallel.html
> >
> > So, inside a maven-antrun-plugin section you can do a <parallel> with
> > no hesitation.
> >
> > The main issue, though, gets back to one of "The Maven Way"
> >
> > Maven was designed with a very heavy emphasis on the "right" way to do
> > things, and with most projects (breaking into modules, providing
> single-file
> > artifact build results, assumed "src/java" layout, etc.) the only
> "parallel"
> > part that could really work would be when compiling the classes from the
> > **/*java files.  This would theoretically result in "quicker" java
> compiling,
> > but I question if the result would be a significant gain, unless you had
> > a SERIOUSLY large number of classes in that jar!  And with a 6 minute
> build,
> > you really don't :)
> >
> > For NON-JAVA src files, you can turn on the make flags appropriately
> already
> > (in other words, if maven isn't doing the build, it's just calling ant
> to
> > call make or something, then you can get the make command to
> parallelize)
> > (I remember an old comparison of gcc vs. kylix in this area: gcc
> benefits
> > from the "make -j" to such a large extent because it's really horrible
> at
> > building each file: kylix, with Pascal's simpler compile rules, was so
> much
> > faster they weren't even in the same league!)
> >
> > But that's really just "the way it is" : there's no real way that maven
> can
> > parallelize things without causing a lot of issues.  Threading output of
> > the build, handling build failures, ensuring dependency order: it would
> add
> > a LOT of complexity to the build with not a lot of benefit.
> >
> > And, just for the record, my maven project has 100 (wow, 100 exactly.
>  hadn't
> > counted before) modules and a full build of EVERYTHING takes about 330
> minutes
> > on my fastest build machine: if there was a way that I could speed this
> up
> > I would GLADLY do so, but there really isn't : any speedup that's caused
> by
> > a change in how maven works would result in serious usability and
> stability
> > issues that would NOT be worth it, IMNSHO.
> >
> > Dana Lacoste
> >
> > -----Original Message (Trimmed for content)-----
> > From: Jorg Heymans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:36 AM
> > To: Maven Users List
> > Subject: Re: Multiple CPUs
> >
> > well imagine that during your integration build you have to deploy 10
> EARs, and each of them to a number of application servers (weblogic,
> websphere etc etc). That adds up pretty quick. I don't know the effort
> involved, but if the ant runner for example could be made to run in a
> different thread for each invocation that could speed things up drastically
> only for this use case.
> >
> > Jorg
> >
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