On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 05:40, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I'm in a 30 person company with a development team of 5 and we have a
> > separate dev environment, qa environment and of course production
> > environments.  By separate I mean really, really separate - separate
> > firewalls, separate DMZ's, separate secure areas.  Can't get from one
> > to another.
> 
> Well different companies will do it differently. Maybe I should be clear - I
> want dist:deploy to deploy to other developers in the company, not an
> external website. At present dist:deploy only supports ssh, and thats just
> no use to me.
> 
> At present I have stopped working on using Maven. If it takes 3 days with
> Maven to not achieve what you want, then is it worth it? 

Absolutely not. 

> At some point
> everybody gives up. I know ant will give me less. But it will work.

I definitely think Ant is your best bet and I have always encouraged the
use of Ant for people who have large existing builds. It a lot of cases
it's not worth switching.

> You should know that I don't feel good writing this. I'm sure that for you
> guys, it all seems to work great and well. But I can't spend forever on
> trial and error attempts. 

Nope, I wouldn't either. You need to use what gets the job done for you.
And unfortunately it is true that Maven has become a little complicated
with our use of unstructured Jelly. Something that will be remedied on
the path to 2.0.

> Especially as I don't feel that what I am trying
> to do is that complicated.

Still if it's not doing what you need you can't use it. Fair enough. If
Ant does what you need then use it.

> I will probably use maven just to do site:deploy (that works well :-). The
> rest will be ant. Maybe I'll look again after version 1.0. Sorry.
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
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