On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Fernando Cassia <fcas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/18/16, Mark Haney <mark.ha...@vifprogram.com> wrote:
>> IIRC, wasn't Ted Ts'o working with RH on BTRFS when it was being
>> developed?  Of course, I've slept since then, but I'm pretty sure I read
>> some articles discussing that collaboration.
>
> If there was a political will to make BTRFS a first class citizen on
> Fedora, the status wouldn't be as it is today.
>
> From:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs#Btrfs_support_in_Fedora
> ---
>  Btrfs support in Fedora
>
>     Btrfs has been available for testing as early as Fedora 11 but
> required a special boot parameter to be passed to Anaconda during
> installation.
>     In Fedora 15 it is available without a special boot parameter.
>   >>  As of Fedora 16 it is slated to be the default filesystem. <<
> --
> [insert sarcastic laugh]

Keep in mind at the time RH employed a Btrfs kernel maintainer, who
was pushing for and willing to support this. But he's not at RH
anymore, isn't significantly involved in Fedora, and neither RH nor
Fedora have replaced that capability or experience.


>
> Again, look at this thread
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/211673.html
>
> "was told there are no plans to make it the default yet."
>
> June 2015. That takes me back to my original reply: want BTRFS, use
> SUSE or OpenSUSE.
> Fedora devs just drag their feet and come up with excuses as to why
> the bugs that are still there are not fixed like other distros did,
> for proper BTRFS integration...

SUSE has at least two Btrfs kernel developers, one of whom is a
current Btrfs maintainer. Meanwhile, one of the XFS maintainers is
employed by Red Hat. Another RH developer works on XFS and ext4, while
juggling btrfs-progs packaging for Fedora. And the two devicemapper
maintainers are employed by Red Hat.

So it's not difficult to understand why RH/Fedora are much more
emphasizing LVM+XFS for server, devicemapper thin provisioning + XFS
for container backing, and LVM+ext4 for general purpose. While I don't
like the de-emphasis of Btrfs in Fedora, it's not reasonable to expect
Fedora developers to support something with which they lack deep
familiarity, while they have such deep familiarity with other
technologies.


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