I'm having some similar or exact problems, but I'm not sure what does "when X 
tries to start" means, generally I have random crashes that results in a black 
screen and then i need to reboot, witch I think is due to ati drivers. I'm 
running karmic on hp with radeon hd 3200 is there any file logs I can post?
I wrote in details on this thread about it : 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402806

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[fglrx karmic] Black screen and no response after starting X (Radeon HD3870)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/486502
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