Hi Ross,
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 8:17 AM, Ross Gammon <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Erich,
On 3/10/19 12:43 AM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
Hi all,
Sean Davis (bluesabre) did an amazing job and ported
mate-screensaver to
xfce4-screensaver. The motivation, as I understand it, is because
light-locker is largely unmaintained and causes a race condition
when
resuming from sleep due to the vt change (or something like that, we
don't need to get too technical on this).
With that, light-locker and xscreensaver are being largely
depricated by
the Xubuntu team (who can correct me if I'm wrong... well, anybody
can
correct me) in favor of xfce4-screensaver. I think this change, if
it
needs to happen in our seeds, needs to happen.
If you want to test it first, that's good practice. That said, I
can say
from personal experience that I have experienced the light-locker
race
condition myself, and it's definitely not a good bug to have.
Anyhow, we don't need to make this change immediately. Our priority
right now is the Developer Membership Board meeting happening on
Monday
at 1500 UTC (I may have posted that this was at 1200 UTC, that was a
mistake) for mine and Ross's applications for Per-Package Uploader
permissions. My application, I expect, will be rejected due to lack
of
experience, so I'm in it mostly for the feedback. However, we're
hoping
for success with Ross's application, which is getting a lot of
support
at present.
With that, I want to say that this change in the seed, if necessary,
isn't as high of a priority, but it would bring some good bug fixes
to
our default Xfce desktop.
The last time we discussed screensavers was quite a while ago when Kai
was still in charge and we decided to remove our Ubuntu Studio
screensaver package becasue it was broken and we didn't have it in the
seeds anyway.
There was some discussion about the use of screensavers in general and
it was decided that in the days of flatscreens the original purpose
has
disappeared, and the fact that in audio and video we might want to
watch
some rendering/mastering chuntering along for quite a while, that
screensavers did not make much sense. I think the power management
settings would need to be fiddled with to get the screensaver to work
instead of blanking.
But I suppose we could test it as a replacement for light-locker and
see
how it goes with audio/video work. I have not had a computer with a
screen saver for so many years (at work or at home), I have forgotten
what it is like :-)
Ross
I completely agree that with LCD screens the reason for screensavers
(burn-in) has largely been removed. That said, this is more about
screen locking than for the screensavers themselves. Unfortunately,
with light-locker unmaintained and causing resume-from-sleep issues
(that I have experienced, and apparently I'm not the only one), this is
something that needs to happen. I'm working with the Xubuntu team on
this one, since our setup largely needs to reflect theirs in terms of
defaults since we're using their DE.
Thanks,
Erich
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