On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, Ross Gammon wrote:

On 11/24/18 8:32 PM, Len Ovens wrote:
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

You all might have notice the "fail mail" we just got for our ISO. This
is due to the new version of calf deprecating calf-ladspa per the
developer. Ross or Len: Would you mind removing the calf-ladspa package
from the seed? I would except, uh... I've never done it. XD

That said, I'm very happy to see this progress. 0.90.0 dropped a year
ago and was a major change for that package, and 0.90.1 dropped in July
as a bugfix. Hopefully this will make the Ardour people happy as well
since the old version was messing with compatibility.

The ardour people would be happy if this was released to 16.04 -
18.19... don't hold your breath.

Getting calf backported to Xenial is not likely. I have had backports
waiting for sponsorship for years. Nobody seems interested in backports
anymore.

Exactly, however, from RG's perspective, he should never have to tell a ubuntu user to remove this or that package or put up with sw where there is an available upgrade upstream. so keeping Ardour devs happy is pretty much an impossible dream. It is best to be aware that RG (at least) does not like ubuntu and assumes any trouble he has with a ubuntu user is ubuntu's fault.

I have found that the only problem with Ubuntu is that it is the easiest Linux to access and so gets more newy users than Arch (for example). I have found that more than 50% of all ubuntu user problems are using Ardour/Jack with a USB mic and internal playback.

We could provide it in a ppa, (probably also with a new metapackage),
and advise those interested in using the ppa that lmms will be removed.

The PPA route would probably be best.

Alternatively, we could go for an SRU (Stable Release Update) with the

Those are more trouble than they are worth and might break someones important project :P best not to.

Ubuntu is not a rolling release and people choose it for that reason. I was not sugesting we change things, just trying to explain (badly) that pleasing Ardour devs is not likely so don't worry to much about that. (They would have you remove all Calf plugins anyway)

Sorry for the confusion.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net


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