Hi, On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 08:33:05PM -0000, Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen wrote: > I have had several matrox, intel and ati based graphics cards that with > the default install would CRASH upon about half of the opengl- > screensavers.
So, this is your hardware or upstream xorg drivers bug. > If the screensavers that require 3D are in seperate packages, why are > they even installed by default and/or available on a live-desktop. This > is a packaging issue, not an upstream issue. No, this is a buggy hardware or buggy upstream drivers issue, because system should never crash - stability should never depend on some software, which user can start, like 3D game or screensaver. > Also I vote for priority 'critical'. Since on about half of the 3d cards > out there, using the default open source drivers, they make the system > crash. If you got system crash you should report a critical bug against xorg drivers, not agains 3D game or other software, which uses xorg. > I will try to post some specific bug reports about all the hardware > although I suspect they are already well known upstream. Yes, you should report bugs agains xorg-driver-xxx packages or kernel DRI drivers. Btw, I suggest you to try to test with older Ubuntu versions, for example I noticed lots of crashes on several system with ATI Radeon 9xxx driver with Ubuntu 6.06, but with Ubuntu 5.10 they works fine and stable. -- don't use OpenGL savers if no hardware support https://launchpad.net/bugs/33753 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs