Also, since the first day I knew about ubuntu I knew it was based on 
debian...why??? because ubuntu always included a link in the Firefox bookmarks 
to debian.org with ("ubuntu is based on Debian") ....see the following link:
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z123/verb3k/ubuntu_and_debian.png

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Website does not reference Debian visibly
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274
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