On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 06:55:45PM -0000, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > While we're at it, we could also push the times 2 hours more outside, to > 4 and 20. So, something like this would probably be an improvement:
> [Unit] > Description=Daily apt activities > After=network.target > > [Timer] > OnCalendar=*-*-* 4,20:00 > RandomizedDelaySec=30m > AccuracySec=5m > Persistent=true I don't see why this is an "improvement". The designed experience for this on Ubuntu is for these jobs to run between 6am and 7am local time, with a single run per day and a random delay within the 1-hour window. On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 06:48:59PM -0000, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > We can of course add After=network.target but this gives no real guarantee > that internet is available. For waiting with catch up runs during boot, > that's tracked in systemd's bug tracker at > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5659. As discussed on IRC, this should be After=network-online.target / Wants=network-online.target. If we're not online, there's no point in doing an apt update AFAICS. (Ok, in an extreme case you might have a sneakernet-connected apt repository which you rotate by hand... but I'm not sure anyone who uses apt that way cares about the daily timer.) > The boot argument with short runtime should be ignored. We can't help > everyone. People are already complaining that the job runs during boot > and want us to delay it during boot. I think that should clearly be regarded as 'wontfix'. The default experience should ensure that security updates are applied in a timely manner to every instance of Ubuntu, regardless of its power on/off cycle. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1615482 Title: apt-daily timer runs at random hours of the day To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1615482/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
