Hi Nafallo. First of all, sorry for the inconstructive rant i've posted here. I was fed up with all the pointless discussions here at the proper place, but i've shouldn't have used the tone I did.
Still, you can't deny programs like automatix install a 32-bit firefox and 32-bit mplayer + codecs at the click of a button. I'm very well aware their solutions are usually of 'forum-quality' (i.e. dirty hacks stacked upon each other) rather than a proper build and package. Nevertheless in the end they deliver what many people are wanting. You are claiming fud because you yourself have little need for these things. Yet one of the typical intenttons of ubuntu was to be usefull to more people than just the developpers. Likely you don't want to play games, or use MSN either. You won't get many word-docs in the mail either. I've converted quite a few people that depend on my for their system maintaince. (still, even with Ubuntu). The primary stuff they want: Java Applets (read: Yahoo games), Flash (read; Youtube), Wine-based-games (read: Half-life2/Counterstrike) and MSN. Sure, i'll try to seduce them to Jabber, point them to opensource games, show them they can use OGG instead of MP3, show them they are better off sending PDF's around. But these kinds of transitional support is make or break for them. About half of these persons have amd64 chips. Each new release I check if they can do the principal stuff they need on AMD64. I don't want or need a blame game. Nor a principal discussion about what the priority is. I don't want to be the millionth person here pointing to bug number 1. But if anyone reads the priority as in Wine, Flash and Java do not matter, then bug #1 is 'won't fix' as well. That would be a choice I can understand, but unlike you said, that's not the current policy. Ubuntu is, more than any linux distro, a transition distro. Most new Ubuntu users are former Windows users. So, in a more polite form, I would like to point out that there is a huge demand for working flash, codecs, wine and java. I understand that installing 32-bit firefox and mplayer is pretty hackish. Which is why I proposed to only bring gstreamer-pitfall-dll to linux32. Codecs do not have any dependencies anyway. This was not a request for proper multi-arch like you claim. The areas where multi-arch is needed is limited to non-free stuff anyway. If flash, java-applets, wine and codecs work, I don't see any need for multi-arch support. All other stuff is just a recompile away. Now, here is my question to you: how many of the AMD64 users are actually running the 368 version of Ubuntu and why is that? -- The 64bit mplayer binary/package can't use the 32bit win32codecs to play *wmv files. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/571 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
