On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 10:35:52AM -0000, rvjcallanan wrote: > Please Soren, I know you probably work your ass off on this stuff, but > try not to be so precious. I am just a humble infrastructure guy > trying to make things *actually work*. My lack of expertise regarding > what goes on in your domain should not in any way detract from my > basic requirement that it "should do what it says on the tin".
If you actually want me to do anything for you, you could start by not suggesting over and over again that nothing works, and everything is completely b0rken. It's like suggesting that a car is completely unusable because the ash tray is full. > > To what venom do you refer? > Are you really serious? Yes. > > > Can Ubuntu do to Samba what it did to Debian??? > > What would that be? > Eh, a fork??? Ubuntu SBS? Copyright Jim Shanks If that's what you're referring to, I don't understand the "I shouldn't have said that" comment? > I took out a subscription to various Linux mags a couple of years ago > to watch developments from a safe distance and try to get a good > picture about what was going on. My intial impressions of the > community effort were positive, however, I could see many potential > fault lines. I used the term "Hack Fest" earlier on in this thread and > that just about sums up my feeling at this stage. That is not to say > that Microsoft doesn't have it's own structural problems which are > reflected in products that have marketing written all over them and > are generally over-the-top and "too bloody clever by half". Did it occur to you that the "hack fest" we have going on right here out in the open also takes place in every closed source software company, only behind closed doors? The freedom we provide you with, is the freedom to take what is there now and use that or to wait until Samba marks their 4.0 release. That's a choice you have. > As it stands, I am on the *cusp* of implementing a reliable MS Windows > SB Server replacement using *stable* Ubuntu 6.06 LTS/Samba 3.0.22. I > have avoided file system extended attributes. Even though they appear > to be supported by Dapper, it seems that cp, tar and many other files > sytem utilities have little or no extended attribute support...at > least the versions supported by Dapper (if I am wrong, please correct > me on this). I don't know. I haven't needed it myself, and I haven't seen any bug reports about these issues. > By the way, I won't even mention Posix ACLs. Why? > What prompted my misguided bug report was a strange bug which I > discovered the other day and this was the straw that broke the camel's > back. Have you filed a bug report about it? It's kind of hard to fix bugs we don't know about. > I want a stable up-to-date Samba release Are you suggesting that "stable" and "up-to-date" don't exclude each other? Or are you suggesting that 3.0.25c which is the current "up-to-date" version of Samba is the end all and be all of Samba releases, so we can just take that one and never again have to update it? > Given the excellent relations we have already built up on this thread, > you will then agree to my request Possibly, yes. If I believe the fix is worth the risk for *all* the other Dapper users out there, there's a good chance we'll backport it. > As quid-pro-quo, I will then publish my Ubuntu SBS setup on the Ubuntu > forum and hopefully save many others from similar aggravation. I can't say I much approve of your holding useful information hostage. > > Is anyone else interested in this? I'm not a coder (used to be, but > > got out of it a looong time ago) but I have had success in making > > it work, and would be interested in sharing experiences, scripts, > > config files and any other info as well as documentation. > Jim, count me in but I think I've outstayed my welcome here so let's > move to a new thread on the forum. Please keep in mind that most of us don't actively monitor the forums. We have a wiki, a mailing list, an IRC channel, and Launchpad. > I will only move to desktop Linux when hardware support is much better Have you filed bugs about your particular problems? -- Soren Hansen Ubuntu Server Team http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- Samba Backport Urgently Needed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/137656 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
