Launchpad has imported 3 comments from the remote bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=811681.
If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-11-14T11:14:03+00:00 Aozill6 wrote: User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/16.0 Build ID: 20121025212310 Steps to reproduce: For additional files go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559 Actual results: I've been using the Internet since 1993 before and during the first year browsers came out. Back then the scroll bars seemed as wide as your finger. As time has gone on, screen resolutions have continue to increase, but each time this happens the browsers scroll bar gets more and more narrow on the screen. It seems to maintain its pixel width, but at higher resolutions its physical width continues to narrow. At this point, I find myself wanting to enjoy higher resolutions, but at the same time, I want things to be bigger at those higher resolutions. It has finally gotten to the point, that I find the width of scroll bars too narrow, requiring too fine-grained of a mouse-control-effort for simple web page navigation, such as: 1) Clicking the scroll-bar's up button 2) Clicking the scroll-bar's down button 3) Dragging the scroll-bar's slider. Although a scroll-wheel is a helpful workaround, it remains an issue that the scroll-bar itself continues to require ever increasing fine- grained-effort to use. It is finally gotten to the point that I consider it a cumbersome control. I suggest doubling its size by default in future updates and releases of Firefox. Or at lease making the scroll-bar easy to scale-adjust its size (without the user having to understand CSS style sheet modification). Perhaps it would be good to make the scroll-bar right-clickable and providing a "Adjust Width" option in its context menu. Many desktop applications could learn a thing or two from touch screen interfaces. Notice how bluntly (widely) they make their buttons and selectable options. They do it out of necessity because they know a person is going to be using their finger to select that option. However, even with a mouse, the bigger something is, the easier it is to select. Just because a mouse-cursor comes to a fine point, doesn't mean that controls ought to be barely bigger than that point. I believe we have finally crossed a threshold. While before, we've always been trying to maximize the browser's screen real estate, now we've got plenty of width at higher resolutions, and it is time to increase the width of scrollbars and make them require less fine- grained-mouse-control-effort to use. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.10 Package: firefox 16.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.5.0-18.29-generic 3.5.7 Uname: Linux 3.5.0-18-generic x86_64 AddonCompatCheckDisabled: False ApportVersion: 2.6.1-0ubuntu6 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: USER PID ACCESS COMMAND /dev/snd/controlC2: lonnie 2197 F.... pulseaudio /dev/snd/controlC0: lonnie 2197 F.... pulseaudio BuildID: 20121025212310 CRDA: Error: command ['iw', 'reg', 'get'] failed with exit code 1: nl80211 not found. Channel: Unavailable Date: Sat Nov 10 22:42:45 2012 ForcedLayersAccel: False IfupdownConfig: # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback InstallationDate: Installed on 2012-10-19 (23 days ago) InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" - Release amd64 (20121017.5) IpRoute: default via 192.168.77.1 dev eth0 proto static 169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link metric 1000 192.168.77.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.77.246 metric 1 IwConfig: eth0 no wireless extensions. lo no wireless extensions. MarkForUpload: True PrefSources: prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{8f8fe09b-0bd3-4470-bc1b-8cad42b8203a}/defaults/preferences/prefs.js [Profile]/extensions/{b9db16a4-6edc-47ec-a1f4-b86292ed211d}/defaults/preferences/prefs-dwhelper.js ProcEnviron: TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=<set> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash Profiles: Profile0 (Default) - LastVersion=16.0.2/20121025212310 (In use) RelatedPackageVersions: icedtea-7-plugin 1.3-1ubuntu1.1 google-talkplugin 3.10.2.0-1 rhythmbox-mozilla 2.97-1ubuntu5 totem-mozilla 3.4.3-0ubuntu4 RfKill: RunningIncompatibleAddons: False SourcePackage: firefox UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) WifiSyslog: dmi.bios.date: 11/26/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.bios.version: A04 dmi.board.name: 0P792H dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.board.version: A04 dmi.chassis.type: 8 dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. dmi.chassis.version: A04 dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA04:bd11/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnStudio1737:pvrA04:rvnDellInc.:rn0P792H:rvrA04:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA04: dmi.product.name: Studio 1737 dmi.product.version: A04 dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559/comments/2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-11-14T11:21:43+00:00 Aozill6 wrote: I see that I am not alone for requesting this: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/814771 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559/comments/3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 2012-11-14T11:29:57+00:00 Cork-8 wrote: I don't really see how this is a firefox bug; firefox respects the scroll bar dimensions specified in the os theme. You can load a theme with wider scroll bars, and firefox will happily use them. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1077559/comments/4 ** Changed in: firefox Status: Unknown => New ** Changed in: firefox Importance: Unknown => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1077559 Title: Scroll Bar Width is Too Narrow - Uneasily Adjustable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/1077559/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
