On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:26:08 -0000, Scott James Remnant wrote: > So it's worth clearing up a few misconceptions about our bootchart > packages and bootchart2. > > [..]
Thank you Scott for your clarifying message. > [..] > There have been improvements and changes to the collector made > "upstream", but these relied on libraries and kernel features that were > only available (at least in sensible form) on Fedora at the time, so I > never merged them. > > Conversely Tollef and I originally put a *LOT* of work into making "apt- > get install bootchart" _just_work_ on Ubuntu, that work was never > accepted by Debian back into the bootchart package and has never made it > into their bootchart2 package. I'm not maintaining bootchart, just -2. We're just different maintainers. Do you have a bugreport handy? > Thus getting bootchart2 up and running is basically a lot of work for not a > huge amount of gain. You'd quickly discover that the extra features of the > collector are hard to get going and don't give a great benefit; and then > you'd realise that the way Debian package it requires mucking around with the > kernel command-line and replacing the init daemon with bootchart (and thus > missing out on the entire initramfs). Yes, I noticed that too. And I'd like to fix that, if possible. > That's why I never took the time out to do the update - it would have > been a hiatus in the boot performance work mucking around with the > charting tools, and what we have now worked well enough. > > > I'm not saying we shouldn't do the update, we certainly should, I'd just > encourage it to be done carefully because just dropping in the Debian > packages will mean all the tools and processes we have for working with > bootcharts get thrown out of the window too. I guess I'll take some time to see the "bootchart" package in Ubuntu -- which I see now diverged enough to be considered something different :) $ rmadison bootchart bootchart | 0.9-4 | etch | source, all bootchart | 0.10~svn407-3 | lenny | source, all bootchart | 0.10~svn407-3.3 | sid | source, all $ rmadison -u ubuntu bootchart bootchart | 0.9-0ubuntu6 | dapper | source, all bootchart | 0.9-0ubuntu7 | hardy | source, all bootchart | 0.90.1-3 | jaunty/universe | source, amd64, i386 bootchart | 0.90.2-3 | karmic/universe | source, amd64, i386 bootchart | 0.90.2-7 | lucid | source, amd64, i386 bootchart | 0.90.2-7 | maverick/universe | source, amd64, i386 bootchart | 0.90.2-7 | natty/universe | source, amd64, i386 $ Scott, if bootchart2 upstream ACKs your (Ubuntu's) changes, would you agree to find a common path to reduce the Deb-Ubu delta, and have a common package (or, at least, a common basis)? (I should probably also contact the bootchart Debian maintainer) Thank you, David -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 ----|---- http://deb.li/dapal `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174 -- Sync bootchart2 0.12.4-2 from Debian unstable (main) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/680107 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
