Workarounds are hocus pocus and should not be distributed. They do not work
in all cases, so are at best an indicator of where to look for a developer.
Shouting even when frustrated does not solve problems faster.  I will wait
patiently for a fix that works reliably, or use something else for the
interim.
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:24:28AM -0000, Robbie Williamson wrote:
>> :
>> 2) It has *something* to do with when lo0 is activated, i.e. a race
condition
>
> I disagree, it has something to do with not being able to write
/dev/console.
> See my analysis in bugs 581291 and 543506.
>
>> 3) There are apparently a few hacky workarounds, but no fix
>
> They _are_ hacky, _BUT_ they give some of us reliable boots.
> They should be distributed until a fix is found.
>
>> 4) There is no concrete evidence that this is a kernel issue
>> 5) There is no concrete evidence that this is an upstart issue
>
> I disagree. There is strong, but inconclusive, evidence that it is EITHER
> a kernel or upstart issue (maybe both). Again see 543506.
>
>> This bug is officially "on the radar", so we will figure out what's
>> causing the issue and address it in an SRU, but it's too late for
>> 10.04.1.
>
> I do not see why the hacky workarounds can not be part of the official
> distribution until the real fixes are implemented.
>
> I strongly recommend distributing the workarounds, including the
> init='/bin/sbin --verbose'
> I had some evidence that it _helped_ improve boot reliability.
> It certainly helped with boot sequence visibility.
>
> I would think you would want to increase the population of reliable boots.
> The evidence is that over the past months newer 10.4 updates have been
> reducing that population.
>
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> CUPS and other system services not starting at boot
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/554172
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> Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed
> Status in The Lucid Lynx: Confirmed
>
> Bug description:
> Binary package hint: cups
>
> Cups is not loading on my machine at boot, must run sudo /etc/init.d/cups
start to after booting to print.
>
> ProblemType: Bug
> DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04
> Package: cups 1.4.2-10
> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-19.28-generic 2.6.32.10+drm33.1
> Uname: Linux 2.6.32-19-generic i686
> NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
> Architecture: i386
> Date: Fri Apr 2 13:07:35 2010
> InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Alpha i386 (20100401)
> Lpstat: Error: command ['lpstat', '-v'] failed with exit code 1: lpstat:
Connection refused
> MachineType: Dell Inc. Studio XPS 1340
> Papersize: letter
> PpdFiles: Brother-HL-2170W-series: Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/pxlmono
(recommended)
> ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-19-generic
root=UUID=615bbe85-506a-4152-af5a-a5c2da303d83 ro quiet splash
> ProcEnviron:
>  LANG=en_US.utf8
>  SHELL=/bin/bash
> SourcePackage: cups
> dmi.bios.date: 09/08/2009
> dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
> dmi.bios.version: A11
> dmi.board.name: 0Y279R
> dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
> dmi.board.version: A11
> dmi.chassis.asset.tag: 1234567890
> dmi.chassis.type: 8
> dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
> dmi.chassis.version: A11
> dmi.modalias:
dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA11:bd09/08/2009:svnDellInc.:pnStudioXPS1340:pvrA11:rvnDellInc.:rn0Y279R:rvrA11:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA11:
> dmi.product.name: Studio XPS 1340
> dmi.product.version: A11
> dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.
>
>
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