Workarounds are hocus pocus and should not be distributed. They do not work in all cases, so are at best an indicator of where to look for a developer. Shouting even when frustrated does not solve problems faster. I will wait patiently for a fix that works reliably, or use something else for the interim. > On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:24:28AM -0000, Robbie Williamson wrote: >> : >> 2) It has *something* to do with when lo0 is activated, i.e. a race condition > > I disagree, it has something to do with not being able to write /dev/console. > See my analysis in bugs 581291 and 543506. > >> 3) There are apparently a few hacky workarounds, but no fix > > They _are_ hacky, _BUT_ they give some of us reliable boots. > They should be distributed until a fix is found. > >> 4) There is no concrete evidence that this is a kernel issue >> 5) There is no concrete evidence that this is an upstart issue > > I disagree. There is strong, but inconclusive, evidence that it is EITHER > a kernel or upstart issue (maybe both). Again see 543506. > >> This bug is officially "on the radar", so we will figure out what's >> causing the issue and address it in an SRU, but it's too late for >> 10.04.1. > > I do not see why the hacky workarounds can not be part of the official > distribution until the real fixes are implemented. > > I strongly recommend distributing the workarounds, including the > init='/bin/sbin --verbose' > I had some evidence that it _helped_ improve boot reliability. > It certainly helped with boot sequence visibility. > > I would think you would want to increase the population of reliable boots. > The evidence is that over the past months newer 10.4 updates have been > reducing that population. > > -- > CUPS and other system services not starting at boot > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/554172 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of a duplicate bug. > > Status in Ubuntu: Confirmed > Status in The Lucid Lynx: Confirmed > > Bug description: > Binary package hint: cups > > Cups is not loading on my machine at boot, must run sudo /etc/init.d/cups start to after booting to print. > > ProblemType: Bug > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 > Package: cups 1.4.2-10 > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-19.28-generic 2.6.32.10+drm33.1 > Uname: Linux 2.6.32-19-generic i686 > NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia > Architecture: i386 > Date: Fri Apr 2 13:07:35 2010 > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 "Lucid Lynx" - Alpha i386 (20100401) > Lpstat: Error: command ['lpstat', '-v'] failed with exit code 1: lpstat: Connection refused > MachineType: Dell Inc. Studio XPS 1340 > Papersize: letter > PpdFiles: Brother-HL-2170W-series: Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/pxlmono (recommended) > ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-19-generic root=UUID=615bbe85-506a-4152-af5a-a5c2da303d83 ro quiet splash > ProcEnviron: > LANG=en_US.utf8 > SHELL=/bin/bash > SourcePackage: cups > dmi.bios.date: 09/08/2009 > dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc. > dmi.bios.version: A11 > dmi.board.name: 0Y279R > dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc. > dmi.board.version: A11 > dmi.chassis.asset.tag: 1234567890 > dmi.chassis.type: 8 > dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc. > dmi.chassis.version: A11 > dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA11:bd09/08/2009:svnDellInc.:pnStudioXPS1340:pvrA11:rvnDellInc.:rn0Y279R:rvrA11:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvrA11: > dmi.product.name: Studio XPS 1340 > dmi.product.version: A11 > dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc. > > > > To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/554172/+subscribe
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