Between that other thread and your comments I was hoping network manager might be optional. I removed it with apt-get remove network-manager
Getting sane behaviour. Network services being started after the network is up. Ntp working as expected. Servers specified by IP being added. Servers specified by name being added. Every thing was working fine. Did an apt-get upgrade. Whoops, something in the upgrade pulled network-manager back in and back to the broken behaviour. I am guessing it was kubuntu-desktop. It was a freshly installed machine so a big update. Removing n-m now brings it up to 4 work arounds I have just to get ntp working. -- ntp starts before the network is up in feisty https://launchpad.net/bugs/90267 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
